36 Tickets, 7 Arrests in Mantoloking Since Route 35 Reopened
Several tickets for 'unwanted tourism,' officials say
Police in Mantoloking have issued 36 summonses and made seven arrests since the full reopening of Route 35 through the storm-damaged borough.
Chris Nelson, special counsel for the borough's recovery effort, said at a borough council meeting Tuesday that the summonses include 12 issued for "unwanted tourism" and four for "scrapping."
The borough is defining unwanted tourism as motorists stopping their vehicles to take pictures of the destruction from Superstorm Sandy. Scrapping refers to motorists who enter the borough to illegally take away pieces of scrap metal.
"For the first time in my life, I saw a woman in her Mercedes driving 50 m.p.h. along Route 35 filming the length of the borough of Mantoloking," said Nelson.
A 25 m.p.h. speed limit is being strictly enforced between Mantoloking and the southern point in Ortley Beach, where Route 35 converges with Route 37.
Other tickets were issued for various traffic offenses, including four to people who were driving with suspended licenses.
"If your license is suspended, I wouldn't drive here," said Nelson. "The state police have a car that drives around and [automatically] reads your license plate."
The arrests included those who were taken to jail for disorderly conduct – specifically, a person who was fighting with a police officer who was trying to write a ticket – as well as trespassing.
The borough is being patrolled not only by local police, but state troopers who are in town due to the continued state of emergency declaration. They are accompanied by Ocean County Sheriff's Department officers in four wheel drive vehicles who are patrolling the beach, which is completely off-limits.
According to an earlier statement from Mantoloking Police Detective Lt. John Barkus, motorists are prohibited from driving or parking on side streets within Mantoloking without a resident permit.
The borough has been saturated with police vehicles since the state highway which runs through it reopened.
TRman
6:52 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Taking pictures gets you a fine!!! I would love to see that defended in any court
other then their own!!!
William Hammski
9:08 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Put a sock in it TRman.
Tom Pasquale
2:36 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
They weren't on a road that has signs that clearly state no stopping or you will be ticketed or arrested....clear enough
jerseyswamps
7:33 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
You are guys are not going to gain any support from the rest of NJ if you keep this up. You are not special.
Tom Szymanski
8:41 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
You say "gain support from the rest of NJ." The State Police are "you guys" u r talking about... the ones issuing the summonses. State police...as in they have a statewide presence. How can an organization with a presence already statewide gain or lose support from "the rest of NJ". You clearly haven't been down here to see the rebuilding is nowhere near complete, in may cases not even started. The last thing residents or contractors or public safety officials need is people stopping to take pictures of the devastation
William Hammski
9:10 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
They don't need any support. They need interlopers to KEEP OUT.
Tom Pasquale
2:38 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
You can't use big words with these people, William
jerseyswamps
3:31 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Sorry I couldn't stay around to reply. I had to go work on MY flooded property. I've been through there. But it took a while. As you know STATE Hwy. 35 was closed to the rest of the free world. There was no need to keep it closed for as long as they did and inconvenience everyone trying to clean and rebuild their places. By "you guys" I meant the town officials. I know the cops are doing what they are told.
Bob Alou
7:34 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Why are all taxpayers footing the security bill for a private community of mostly second homes? How long are we expected to do so?
William Hammski
9:11 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
What security bill are youse talking about?
Bowie Thelonius
10:56 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
For as long as it takes the rich and over-privileged to get their houses re-built. In other words for as long as they like.
Tom Pasquale
2:40 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
There is nothing private about Mantoloking. Come up with the money and buy a house. I'm sure you will be welcomed.
Gabe Castrovilly
7:42 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
POLICE STATE
William Hammski
9:12 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
NOT a POLICE STATE. We want you who don't belong here in an emergency situation to KEEP OUT. Now, put a sock in it Gabe!
Brickresident
7:43 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Its a sham people are that stupid. I took a drive 2 weeks ago, and i couldnt believe the amount of people parking on the side of the road taking pictures. No need for that when the media is providing pictures. Alot were out of staters.
Chief Wahoo
7:51 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Land of the Free and Home of the Brave !!!!
Ha Ha Ha
William Hammski
9:13 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Land of the free and home of us that don't want interlopers here at this time. When all is repaired, bring money and spend it.
suz
7:53 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I was at Ortley for the first time since Sandy a few weeks ago. Yes, I took my camera to take pix...sorry, but I just don't see the harm. Oh, by the way, I was with family who live in Ortley, NOT sight seeing and NOT a second home. I am just as horrified as others to see the damage...the barrier island was just as important to me since I have spent many a day cycling along the shore. Pictures are not a crime for personal use.
William Hammski
9:16 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
It's not the taking of pictures. It is the unecessary traffic during a stated emergency declaration. KEEP OUT interlopers.
Martin
8:33 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I don't think "unwanted tourism" is a charge that will stand up in court.
William Hammski
9:15 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
It will stand up in court because it is an emergency declaration by the Police Department. POOF.
Don Mulvey
2:50 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Isn't that what they want in mantoloking "unwanted tourism"
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
8:41 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I have a video I took in June 1986 from just north of Herbert to Canal Lane in Unit 2. Does that mean I can be arrested, too?
William Hammski
9:16 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I guess you are in a home today for being intelligently negligent?
Tom Pasquale
2:43 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
It's got nothing to do with taking pictures. Are you just incapable of obeying the law?
WMS826
8:57 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I would check with the division of community affairs to see if they approved any such ordinance regarding unwanted tourism.
All ordinances must be approve by them. They also must pass a test of constitutionality. For instance a town cannot ban the wearing of a green hat and issue summons for wearing one.
A check by your attorney or even by you to the NJ Division of Community affairs will tell if you broke any such law. Many towns put these things on the books because it suits them and use it anyway even though it is not approved. If you pay it, then they get the money, if you fight it then they walk away. Either way I know of no such law statewide or one that would fit.
Why is it in the day and age of terrorism legal to photograph NJ Transit trains, but not a wrecked house in Mantolooking NJ where no one died.
How many photos were taken at the WTC where we lost three thousand. Kind of ridiculous that these people want our tax money, donations, and business yet treat us this way. To heck with them.
William Hammski
9:18 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Off topic WMS826.
WMS826
9:34 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Are you threatened by what I posted William...It is right on the money.
William Hammski
9:54 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Threatened? Doubtful. GO AWAY.
Daniel Nee
10:56 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
As mentioned above by a reader, the summons would be linked to a violation of the declared state of emergency. Mantoloking, for its own descriptive purposes, termed it "unwanted tourism," but that is not the legal name of the offense with which one would be charged.
Quaghogdigger
11:07 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Don't feed the Hammy troll....
Tom Pasquale
2:45 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
All these people were asked to do is not to stop along route 35 in Mantoloking. That's it.
Tom Pasquale
2:47 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
WMS....can you read? Your comment has little to do with reality.
s
9:22 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
No picture taking is not a crime but I think that people need to be more respectful to the fact that there were more than just homes lost here and that lives were lost. And no these were not just vacation homes for many, and no many of these families are still living in hotels or temporary housing. Would you want to feel as if you were a tourist attraction or that your life that has just been ripped apart is now being so rudely documented by out of towners ? Just show some respect for these families that have lost so much and that still haven't been able to get back anything close to normal.
Opinionated
9:22 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
This message is to all of you including Gov Christie who have been squawking about Sandy relief. Mantoloking has took a big brunt of the storm and many homes are ruined. Most are "vacation" homes, not primary residences. They have been and will be fighting the placement of protective dunes which would have and will help in the future. Would you believe some are now getting estimates to get their swimming pools ready while many homes in other towns still look like broken toys? And now it is a crime to (gasp) take a picture! Stories like this are starting to erode any sympathy towards those people who have suffered. It makes one wonder if Mantoloking deserves any help in rebuilding. Again I feel badly for those in genuine need because sadly they will be lumped in by this in the minds of many.
Bowie Thelonius
9:26 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Taking pictures can get you arrested? Was anyone arrested in Point Beach, Bay Head, Seaside, etc.,. for taking pictures after the storm? I don't think so.
William Hammski
9:56 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Arrested for disobeying a lawful order to not stop and gawk and take pictures by obstructing traffic. END OF DISCUSSION !
TRman
10:39 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Mr. Hammski needs to learn we are a nation and state of LAWS no the edicts of a Mayor or overzealous police force.
Go ahead tell me to "put a sock in it" again but you can not defend this position and you know it. If we tax payers are not welcome in your town then do not ask us for money.
Have a nice swim
William Hammski
10:44 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
READ THIS AGAIN MOUTHY TRman > Arrested for disobeying a lawful order to not stop and gawk and take pictures by obstructing traffic. END OF DISCUSSION !
TRman
10:51 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Not "END OF DISCUSSION"(and you call me mouthy) for those who need to go to court and fight the bogus charge of "unwanted Tourism"
Blocking the flow of traffic (obstruction) could already get you a ticket, why the new charge???
William Hammski
10:56 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
As I said - We are Done!
William Hammski
10:59 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Thelonius BLABS > "For as long as it takes the rich and over-privileged to get their houses re-built. In other words for as long as they like." We are only over-privileged in your mind because you cannot be here where we are because you are sitting inland waiting for Obammy Money. It AIN'T comin'.
Tom Pasquale
2:31 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
They weren't on a road that has signs that clearly state no stopping or you will be ticketed or arrested....clear enough
Tom Pasquale
2:49 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
It's not about taking pictures Bowie. Stick to the facts.
Boo73
9:27 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
This is a lifetime event and everyone feels the pain, what do you expect people to do?
Don't forget to put that sign up in the summer - Tourists Unwanted.
Bowie Thelonius
9:30 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I think Mantoloking may already have a sign like that.
john
9:32 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
license plate scanners are becoming more and more popular with police departments. they scan for expired registrations, and coming soon expired inspection stickers.
while getting my car washed not long ago, a police car was behind me getting dried off, he got 4 hits of expired regi s in a matter of 3 minutes...on passing cars.
you thought red light camera s was bad ?
William Hammski
9:57 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
License Plate and Inspection Sticker scanners is long overdue. All the muffers disobeying the law should have their vehicles impounded.
Tom Pasquale
2:33 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
It's simple John, be a responsible citizen and you won't have to worry.
Pat H
9:53 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Hooray and kudos to them for ticketing the "Lookie Loos" who are treating this tragedy as a tourist attraction. It is despicable that folks are taking pictures of our worst nightmare and then taking them back to their complete homes and intact neighborhoods to share our horror with their friends. Taking pictures from a passenger seat while the driver drives the speed limit and keeps his or her eyes on the road, okay. Ghoulish, but I will have to accept that. But to tie up traffic, or even worse stop dead to document the destruction and heartbreak of so many people is cold and mean. I say good, fine their butts! I only wish that this was being done all the way from Ortley Beach. If people aren't crawling 10 miles under the speed limit to gawk, they are flying by doing 45. I am loving this article. And for the record? I am not from Mantoloking and I live in a very humble dwelling in the Toms River Twp. section of the Barrier island. It just saddens me so to see folks getting morbid pleasure from this horrific event. *Stepping down from my soapbox now*
Cheri
9:55 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
It's sad to read these comments, whether its a second home or primary residence it is someone's home, with their memories that were lost. No one wants to see or needs gawkers taking pics of their devastation, I know, I was personally affected in Brick and during our cleanup in our neighborhood had many people come thru taking pics while we stood crying..
s
9:59 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I do live one of the areas also hit by Sandy and we did have our house flooded and I've had our friends and family directly effected by all of this and yes we are jumping through all of the hoops that we are supposed to try and get funding to repair/rebuild . It becomes hard enough to navigate through all of that everyday and still find the stred of normalcy that we once new before Sandy swept it out from underneath us. And if the police are scanning plates and people are coming up without registrations isn't there responsibility as the owners of that vehicle to make sure that is taken care of. What if it was your homes that these "sight see-ers" were checking out? In the early days after Sandy hit there were looters and people just coming in taking things from homes, this is not ok. Again , people need to be respectful, it is a word that seems to be lost on so many in the world these days. Very sad...
Tom Pasquale
2:54 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Agreed.
OceanCounty
9:59 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Most of us grew up on the "Jersey Shore", and while I agree those homeowners want a certain anount of protection, and don't necessaraly like us gawkers, they should remember we are also in awe of the destruction.
Ticketing folks for taking pictures is just dumb, unless they are directly in an area where heavy equipment is in use, and are creating a hazzard.
s
10:18 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I agree it is a hard thing to not want to document something like this, but the one thing that I've said was that people simply need to be respectful of those who live in the areas that they are photographing . And I thought the article said that those tickets ranged from one woman driving 50 in a 25 and registration issues to various other violations. But if they are arresting people for taking photos then I'm not sure how that will hold up in court either. Again , my main point has always been to please simply be respectful to those that are in the middle of all of this. You can be curious and still be respectful of others.
OceanCounty
10:32 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Agree that everyone must be respectful as it is a life altering event. Ticket the speeders as they are adding another level of danger.
Tom Pasquale
2:53 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
For the last time, it's not about the pictures.
P Mason
10:20 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
"The borough is defining unwanted tourism as motorists stopping their vehicles to take pictures of the destruction from Superstorm Sandy."
That's very convenient for them, but isn't worth the paper it is written on unless that have a statute on the books. Any first year law student would be able to have that dismissed, and anyone that received such as summons should fight it. The woman doing 50 in a 25mph zone deserved a speeding ticket, nothing more. Regarding Mantoloking; it is not a 'private' community; a state highway runs thru the middle of it.
Matt
10:40 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
The scraping ones I can see getting arrested and fined but what is so wrong with taking pictures? Oh I know, the state doesn't want anyone to know about how slow things are going. Nothing like wasting tax payer money and time.
john
10:46 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
were tickets written for taking pictures or obstructing traffic ?
William Hammski
10:48 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
You cannot be ticketed for taking pictures. You can for obstructing traffic for taking pictures. That is precisely what the interloping muffers ware doing. They should stay out of town till we are ready to suck them back in and take their money. Just Sayin'.
Bowie Thelonius
10:51 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Per William Hammski: " Arrested for disobeying a lawful order to not stop and gawk and take pictures by obstructing traffic. END OF DISCUSSION !" Well thank you Mr. Hammski, glad you cleared that up for us peasants, and thanks for letting us know this discussion is ended. You must be a real big shot. I ask once again, how many people were arrested in Pt. Beach, Bay Head, and parts of Brick for taking pictures? My guess; none. Why is Mantoloking so sacred? Money, power and connections? Who'd a thunk it.
William Hammski
10:54 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
You thunk correctly Thelonius. Now we are "DONE"!
Joe Blow
12:22 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Exaxctly!
Joseph Bricktown
2:40 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
After Reading all the Comments from William Hammski, I think his Parents named him Wrong they should have named you RICHARD Vecause you really are the shortend Version of that name. You sure make it easy to figure out what end of a Horse you represent. & If this is not true don't comment We ARE DONE !!! If it IS true Feel free to rmove all DOUBT !!
brick strong
10:51 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Not only loss of people homes even if its there second summer home its a major change to the appearance of The Jersey Shore and income to our business local or major retails..
Dan
10:53 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Anyone who's lived here any amount of time knows driving though their is a death trap ... doesn't surprise me they have gone to this extent. Another reason to avoid that town ... but COMES HELP US ... come help me I don't care if you take pictures I just want to move home ...
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
10:53 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
We are building sandcastles at low tide. Anything that is done is temporary until the next high tide.
Where do you think the Barnagat Inlet came from in the first place.
What we see, and where we are, is a snap shot in time and all the preparations and man-made dunes and stilted houses are not going to stop the next "Sandy".
Rebuild and enjoy your lives wherever they may be. Life is too short to worry about the next storm.
It will come again, someday, and there is nothing you can do to stop its effects.
Only human arrogance would think different.
A Resident
10:55 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
""For the first time in my life, I saw a woman in her Mercedes driving 50 m.p.h. along Route 35 filming the length of the borough of Mantoloking," said Nelson." - Mr Nelson....how were you allowed to drive 50mph through Mantoloking following this person? or are you just B.S.'ing the people again?
Know what's holding up Mantoloking's recovery process.....Chris Nelson. Self proclaimed recovery expert. NOTHING happens without his Ok.
Take a look around Mantoloking....you are the furthest behind town on the coast with recovery....and you were NOT the worst hit. Ortley was hit worse. Union Beach was hit worse....they are moving forward. You sit and "wait" for your hero to organize and save the day.
deejaycee
10:58 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
ok I took pictures. I was a passenger and I didn't have my boyfriend stop anywhere we just kept it rolling as he drove down and back up 35. I did it for a reason. People up north DONATED TO THE RELIEF EFFORT -- GET it!!! WE DONATED and I thought the people who couldn't get down to see the devastation can see it in the pictures I took and it might generate additional monies for your rebuilding efforts! Get over it. People gawk its human nature. as long as they don't go into your dwellings, or up to the windows, or cause an obstruction on an open road -- they can take pictures if they want. and while I don't mind FEMA helping those who lost their primary homes -- I don't want my governmental monies through FEMA used to rebuild your vacation home. If you have the money to have a second home, or a vacation home, then its on you. I'm worried about those families who grew up here, shopped here, went to schools here and wanted to keep living here. those that are year-round Mantoloking residents, and its those that I want my money to help.
Boose
5:20 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Unfortunately there are not too many of them left in that part of town. Most year round residents there are transplants. Very few people who lived there their entire life are able to afford it.
William Hammski
11:02 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
deejaycee says > "I don't want my governmental monies through FEMA used to rebuild your vacation home." FEMA money cannot be used on vacation homes, only primary residences.
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
11:06 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Although I, too, had my "BS ALERT" flag up on that comment, I have to agree, at least partially, with their claim of being "the hardest hit", as I didn't see another place where there was an inlet ripped right through. I have sympathy for that situation.
Quaghogdigger
11:15 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
And those 3 inlets blew thru because they don't/didn't want dunes.....and who took the secondary hit because of that ?...the west side of the bay.
lifelonginbrick
11:22 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Oh good grief! No one is being arrested for taking pictures they are being issued summons for blocking up the roadway BY PARKING just to take pictures. My co-worker lives in Ortley and he said it was made clear that they are allowing traffic back but at NO TIME ARE PEOPLE TO PULL OVER AND LOITER ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD FOR ANY REASON. They are still in the major process of rebuilding. What is so hard about this concept that we have hysterical nimrods proclaiming we are in a police state now? Get a grip people.
William Hammski
11:32 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Yes LifeLong > The less educated are pushing the panic button and crying Police State for a very normal Police Dept request which MUST be enforced because these same less educated people do not understand the concept. Fortunately they do not LIVE over here.
Thomas smith
11:25 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Mr.Hammski seems to be a little butthurt about this whole situation and everyone's views. Someone was bullied in middle school. All hail the brick patch commenter king.
William Hammski
11:33 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Thanks for the promotion to BPC King. I wish you had properly capitalized it.
Opinionated
11:29 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
To William, I agree with you. Your town may do anything they want. But you should take care of yourselves too. That means NO dunes, no subsidized flood insurance, and no FEMA money. You have the means, fix it yourself and we'll stay away. Good luck.
William Hammski
11:46 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
We have dunes that saved us where I live. NO ocean side damage at all, just sand blown around. I DO NOT live in the area under discussion but felt compelled to answer the Panic Button Pushers.
barbara
11:40 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
so many unkind comments. If you were lucky enough to be spared, then be thankful. If you were not, you don't need to read such garbage.
Thomas smith
11:41 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I wish you would properly remove yourself from this entire thread considering no one cares about your opinions. WE ARE DONE. See what I did there?
William Hammski
11:44 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Dearest Tommy Baby > Obviously people care or they would not respond. Now, go remove YOURSELF!
Thomas smith
11:47 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Did you not understand the whole "we are done" part of that? Or is that something only you are entitled to use? Don't you have a bridge to guard you troll.
William Hammski
11:51 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
All bridges are now unguarded and mainland bennies slink over to see the damage the more fortunate have suffered. Fortunately the more fortunate can rebuild while the less fortunate slink back to their dirt yard in Nowheresville, NJ.
Resident
11:49 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Hammski, get off your high horse. You sound exactly like the pompous arses that believe the ocean is theirs because it is in front of their homes. Did you stay only on your property since the storm or did you too go survey the damage out of natural human curiosity? If a car that is pulled over and not hindering traffic wants to take a picture on a public street, so be it. You and your town should be ashamed of its arrogance when our tax money and donations are going to help rebuild your part of town. Show some class and put a sock in it.
William Hammski
11:55 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
NONE of your money is being used where I live because there is no Oceanside damage. No socks here, only "Silk Stockings". Who do you think you are dealing with, some Pine Barrens Bimbo?
Resident
12:35 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
You said it Hammski not me.....
jack cee
12:58 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Hang on a second.There is 14 homes on my street ,ocean block.We pay 1100 a year for lifeguards,insurance and matience of the beach.We don't own the ocean but we take care if the beach in front of the ocean front homes.We also sell badges but people like you want to use the beach for free.Do you think thats right?
Resident
2:25 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Jack, I understand your "association fee's". So I guess you will be taking care of the storm damage privately between the 14 homes that claim exclusivity to the beach?
David Neafie
3:06 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Thank you Resident..Cheers.
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
11:56 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Dunes will not protect you from another Sandy anymore than a sweater will protect you from the winter cold.
The question is: how much protection is adequate without ruining the normal summer experience.
That argument will only be solved, rationally, not emotionally - which is happening all over, not just on the Island.
William Hammski
12:02 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I beg to differ on some of the dunes. Bulldozed dunes will not save you because they can be easily washed away. Naturally forming dunes that have snow fence embedded in them and added every year when Boy Scouts plant dune grass to anchor the sand will in many case save you because they cannot be easily erroded by pounding wave action.
Bowie Thelonius
11:56 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Actually Mr. Hammski, I've lived at the Shore my entire life, and don't live very far from your beloved Mantoloking. I don't receive "Obammy" money because I work for a living. BTW, I'm a well educated professional, and unlike you, don't expect local government to keep my little bit of the Shore off limits for other citizens.
William Hammski
11:59 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Mantoloking is not my beloved. I don't even live close to there. I am also a retired well educated professional who does NOT expect the government to to keep my little bit of shore off limits for other citizens.
Elizabeth Devecka
11:58 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013
OK I have to speak up!! From Pt. Pleasant to Island Beach State Park The Barrier Island Was Hit by the worst Storm in History!! The Towns and the Residents are trying to REBUILD!! It is Destruction at its worst!! There are people and very large machines trying to clean up and put it back Together for both Residents and tourists to come back to, to LIVE and to visit. If people who do not belong there are getting in the way, by stopping and driving to just take pictures, YOU ARE getting in the way, which takes away from the time that they need to fix it !! Also because people may be not there does not give anyone the right to Trespass on private property either, which has been happening!! Thank you all for your opions of what you think is your right but you are possibly not thinking clearly as to what is going on!
William Hammski
12:04 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Well said and absolutely true Elizabeth. Thank You.
A Resident
12:38 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Elizabeth, you need to get out more. There is major damage far norther than Point Pleasant. Not sure why this little barrier island believes it's the only place damaged?
PS - Point Pleasant has 0 ocean front area....
Joe Blow
12:05 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Would to see the town's arguement against taking pictures hold up against a 1st amendment lawsuit...
lifelonginbrick
12:10 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Please actually read the article. No one is being ticketed for taking pictures they are being ticketed for blocking the roadway. The roadway was opened to the public again on the provision that traffic be kept moving and shoulders be kept clear. It was made clear that anyone pulling over and loitering on the side of the road would be given a ticket. People are trying to rebuild and the traffic needs to be kept moving - it's not happy happy fun picnic time.
William Hammski
12:10 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Hey Joe, You are Blowing smoke - This thread has been worn out and it's not about taking pictures, it's about obstructing traffic.
Thomas smith
12:11 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Should we all just agree with Hammski so he could feel accomplished on being today's a-hole? Go back to your rocking chair at the retirement home, and proof read your replies first before posting. Since you also happen to be a punctuation and grammar officer, your replies should have no mistakes, so stop correcting others when you can't even get your replies typed out right.
William Hammski
12:15 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
This does not deserve a reply.
Joe Blow
12:15 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
It's a public community and public roads. Pre-storm people always parked on the side of 35 and there was no "Obstructing traffic" or *gag* "Unwanted tourism". Public tax dollars go toward that entire community yet the entitled few want it to be treated like a gated community. Just because someone has to drive through there for whatever reason and do not have property there does not mean we should be treated like criminals.
William Hammski
12:21 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
You are out of touch Blow > During normal times stopping along the side of the road is not a problem. During these "abnormal" times the gawking interlopers cause traffic congestion at a time when construction and debris vehicles are trying to get by. Different rules for different times.
lifelonginbrick
12:24 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Yes Joe PRE-STORM people always parked on the side of Rt 35. PRE-STORM as in before the destruction that people are trying to rebuild and recover from. I'm in the construction business and I can tell you the roads there are cramped and narrow in places after the storm and it's very hard to get equipment through ESPECIALLY WITH BRAINLESS D-BAGS LOITERING ON THE SHOULDERS. Are you really that self involved that you can't wrap your mind around that or are you reallly that stupid???
William Hammski
12:28 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Yes LifeLong, This guy BlowJoe is out of touch and really that stupid.
William Hammski
12:25 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I am now bored with all the interlopers that try to defend themselves. I will probably not be answering many more of your inane uneducated comments. POOF.
fed up
2:28 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
POOF? Are you pulling your Hammski again billy?
patriotmfd
12:27 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
the barrier island has become a police state... cops being paid hours and hours of overtime to protect privet property I don't get it ... most homes are empty during normal winters and there is not wild looting and scrapping. Why pay cops to patrol the beach 24/7 on ATVs …Is someone taking sand ??? . looks like a money grab to me. I think I am going to stay away
William Hammski
12:32 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
The Barrier Island needs to be a Police State to protect us from interlopers like you that come to gawk or loot during these unfortunate times. I think you should stay away but come back during the summer and drop big loads of cash in Seaside Heights. Thanks so much.
Joseph Woolston Brick
12:35 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Lets see if we can let New Yorkers and North Jersey people know that Mantoloking doesn't want unwanted tourism! Don't rent there, don't go to stores or beach there, Let's see, what do we name the Facebook and Twitter pages dedicated to the boycotting of Mantoloking this summer? Your suggestions welcomed.
A Resident
1:39 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
There are no stores in Mantoloking. Tourism has pretty much been non-existent in Mantoloking for years. The only people that go there are the ones that live and/or have vacation homes there. It's not a tourist destination.
Argo
12:36 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I live near the Mantoloking Bridge and have been driving over it daily back and forth to work since it reopened northbound. Mantoloking is a devastation with large construction vehicles of all types driving to and fro their intended work sites. Cranes, sand vehicles, some equipment I'm not even familiar with. When I am driving, there are people in front of me, and those vehicles, that are slowing to look, that are distracted by gawking, not paying attention to the road, the large construction vehicles coming at them, the police and workers on the sides of Route 35, and in general are just in the way, whether they are taking pictures or not taking pictures. If you don't belong there, don't be there. I completely do not agree with the silver spoon aspect of it, but for the sake of the workers, the police, and people using the roadway strictly for commuting, stay out of there. There is nothing to see but devastation and rebuilding. It is frustrating to me to see the onlookers, I can just imagine how the workers feel. Get out of their way and let them do their jobs, and not have to be endangered doing it. This is not a plight for the homeowners, because I don't feel they are any different than anywhere else, by any means, its just that the roadway is narrow, the debris is everywhere, there are vehicles that need to be there blocking some of the road...and anyone not paying attention due to rubber necking are potentially endangering these people.
lifelonginbrick
12:41 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Very well said and explained Argo though I fear you will have to use sock puppets for some on this thread to 'get it'.
Blondie
12:51 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Totally agree with Argo. If you don't belong in area, get out. And as for people saying it will generate revenue...the residents are just fine generating revenue for the small amount of businesses open. Instead of taking a leisurely ride down to gawk at our devastation, stay home and order yourself a pizza.
Resident
12:40 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
You have to love the fact that the Hampster learned a new word and has thrown it in most of his/her responses to act as if he/she is well educated. My guess is a winter renter in Seaside Heights with an internet connection.
William Hammski
2:05 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
No new words, and yes well educated. And no not a SSH winter renter but an affulent owner of two houses that does not live on the barrier island, but west of Toms River. So it's time for a sock in your mouth "Resident".
Resident
2:33 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Hamster, you obviously suffer from a Napoleonic complex having the need to constantly post your well educated,affluent and own two homes. Hopefully someone here is impressed to make you feel better.
Jose
12:45 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
If you don't need unwanted tourism rhen shut that portion of 35 back down. Leave it open to contractors, emergency vehicles, & residents to that area only. It's just another way for them to start earning revenue again.
kate
12:45 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Can we set up police roadblocks on the southbound Parkway in July and August to check vehicles for orange people in muscle shirts and tight mini skirts and charge THEM with "unwanted tourism"?
William Hammski
2:05 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Brilliant Kate. POOF.
William Hammski
2:06 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Somebody wrote me that Kate is related to Snooki.
Blondie
12:45 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
The one thing all of these trespassers have to remember is that these are homes. Would you welcome someone to come photograph your home as if it were a museum? Seriously if you don't live in the general beach area, stay home.
Jose
12:54 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Seriously, it's the storm of the century and people are curious.
Argo
1:09 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Tell that to Joe construction worker when he gets run over trying to do his job because someone is curious; or to the guy that is commuting to work and gets hit head on by a construction vehicle swerving out of the way of someone who is curious. You know what they say, curiousity killed the cat...is it worth someone's safety?
Karen
1:37 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
So sorry for everyone's losses & indeed people should not create traffic hazards, delays & violations where people are trying to put their lives back together!! Also, I am sorry for your frustration William Hammski & the intrusions of those inconsiderate. Most people are, in general, in awe of the destruction of Mother Nature- it's human nature & curiosity, & likely are photographing that as opposed to anyone's personal tragedy, though there are always a few jerks looking to capitalize off of someone else's loss specifically, & for those idiots, I'm sure there are many who are sorry. However, that being said, you, sir are rude & belligerent & just plain snotty. You drive away tourism & $ for a town that could use all of the tourism $ they can get. Think of others who need people to come back & spend their $s there- there are far nicer people elsewhere that would get my $! Hoping your town & people come back stronger & more grounded in community than ever before, as well as all of the communities hit. Prayers for all affected!!!
A Resident
1:42 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
"You drive away tourism & $ for a town that could use all of the tourism $ they can get. "
I have to ask....do you people know where Mantoloking is and anything about the town at all? Tourism dollars.....Mantoloking?
William Hammski
2:07 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
NO tourism in Mantoloking.
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
2:39 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Billy the Kid seems to have that "Get off my lawn, you kids" mentality. And his comments have not been very productive. Mantoloking has no public beach, it is mostly all private, multi-million dollar, multi-storied, houses that is built with one road and is used, by the majority of people, to travel thru with a single two-lane, two-way road.
If you want to see "lookee-lou"s on any given day, then just watch the cars traveling through "town" attempting to get to the other end - all the while being the person you are complaining about.
It is only from the lack of a by-pass road that there is any traffic there at all.
It is what they want and they complain about it - because they got it!
yeah, okay
2:47 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Prior to Sandy, getting a ticket in Mantoloking was very easy to do. My son was headed to work, but realized he forgot something. He went to make a right turn on a side street to turn around and was pulled over for making an illegal turn (as they put it). This street always allowed for right turns. The officer had his SUV blocking a temporary sign saying "no right turn" due to some construction. My son was unable to view it due to him blocking it. What it basically comes down to, they have their own "special" protection. People are very tired of driving through Mantoloking and Bay Head and worrying about doing the slightest thing wrong.
I'm sure you think this will deter people from driving on Rt. 35, but it will not. It's the easiest route to Point Pleasant (where many young kids work).
Jose
2:48 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Furthermore, you should consider drawing the blinds, disconnecting phone, television, & internet access, and move to Montana if what you see and hear in an intensly populated state such as NJ disturbs you.
David Neafie
3:10 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
First of all the Beaches should be free in this rip off state.
William Hammski
3:19 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Last of all the beaches should NOT be free so probable slobs like you don't feel "free" to muck them up like you do in the places where the beaches ARE free. PAY or do not come on OUR beaches.
Johnjcpa
3:14 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
This is the perfect time for the state to use eminent domain and dualize Route 35. No sense keeping the traffic jam going on for decades when the homes that are destroyed are only worth the land values.
Argo
3:24 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Oh boy John, you are looking for trouble with that comment...lol...good luck!
Jose
3:58 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Hammski can't possibly be real. Nobody is that wretched a person. Do or did you have a nice beachfront home??? Please tell us all your address so we can all park our butts on the beach in front of your home. Right where the water can tickle our toes when it splashes to shore. And in harmony, we'll recite, maybe chant the state's public land use doctrine over and over again til the cows come home.
Resident
4:45 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
The hamster is obviously a lying wannabe and just stirring up trouble with his posts. No one that claims to be what he/she claims to be would act in such a fashion.
William Hammski
4:48 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Attn: Resident > Yes I would.
KnotShore
4:10 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Gotta love it! NJ government is spending big chunk of initial FEMA funds on "marketing" to tell all the tourists it OK to visit the shore this summer and see the sights. Maybe they should set up a tram ride to go up and down 35 now to get things rolling and bring some dough in.
Thomas smith
4:16 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Wow you pretty much lost any kind of credibility with that last racist statement Hammski. Do us a favor, let me duck tape you to your wheel chair and ill let Jose have the pleasure of pushing you off the fun town pier while I take pictures. You're a POS
William Hammski
4:23 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
By the way, It's Duct Tape, not Duck Tape.
Resident
4:50 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Hamster, as usual you would be wrong , duck tape does exist along with duct tape.
William Hammski
4:55 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Duck Tap is a cheep knock off for Duct Tape. In Mantoloking they do not allow the use of cheep materials and Duck Tape is therefore banned. Only Duct Tape is allowed past the Choke/Check points.
Thomas smith
4:27 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
It's also check point not choke point
William Hammski
4:29 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I meant choke point, not check point.
Thomas smith
4:40 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
So was your racist statement so ill return the favor and not flag you either. So you going to answer the question or are you just going to sit high on your super educated horse?
William Hammski
4:42 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I missed the question. Please repeat it and I will answer it.
jerseyswamps
4:40 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Jose,
This guy, Hammski, isn't real. I recognize the style. He's just trying to create bad blood and then sit back and laugh to himself in his bedroom in his mother's house. He did the same thing during the election. He tried to come off as a conservative Republican saying some pretty offensive things. Some readers fell for it but he's like a little kid telling the same joke over and over and thinking it's just as funny no matter how many times he tells it.
William Hammski
4:44 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Swamps says > "I recognize the style. He did the same thing during the election." You would be incorrect since I was not around during the election. I joined Patch just roday.
jerseyswamps
4:55 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
You just joined today under this name. Next time it'll be a different name. You can even have several names at the same time and reply to yourself. Go back to your porn sites. Leave the grownups alone.
Thomas smith
4:47 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
You really are a small child Hammski. I don't think it's worth belittling you because you've already done that with your worthless rants and attempts at trying to taunt people via the Internet. I've been trying to put a face to your name this entire time but I've settled on a horses a*s because it seems the most fitting.
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
4:55 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
William Hammski:
You come across as a mean spirited decrepit man who wants nothing more to be left in his own swallar. You get some kind of a thrill resorting to non-productive name calling and apparently defending some area which you don't know anything about or don't live in or near, according to you.
Years ago, I would probably have said that you and New Jersey would be pufact together. But, I have seen the resilience and resolve of those actively rebuilding and I think you deserve to be in the class of Imperial Mayor Hypocrite Bloomberg and his lap dog consort the Governor "Mini-Pious" Cuumo. You might be better off swimming back across the Hudson where you belong. But I'm afraid that you will try to ruin the spirits of those working hard to continue to put that City back together again, too.
William Hammski
4:58 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Jeffy > "defending some area which you don't know anything about or don't live in or near, according to you." Again incorrect, I have multiple dwellings, some on the barrier island also.
Resident
5:34 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Hamster, why are you blatantly lying? Here is one of your prior posts
"And no not a SSH winter renter but an affulent owner of two houses that does not live on the barrier island, but west of Toms River."
Now all of a sudden, "some" of your multiple homes are on the barrier island...phony!
William Hammski
5:41 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Ah Resident, you are not with the program. I was responding to some muffer implying that I was a winter renter in SSH. I own 3 house, one west of Toms River and two on the barrier island. Since the barrier island is desolate in the winter I am mostly at my westward house. Occasionally I go to my heated house on the barrier island for weekends if the weather is nice. In the summer I go to my unheated house on the barrier island and rent the other one out. Does that clarify it enough?
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
5:49 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
I am not incorrect, I am using your own words.
You are intentionally being nasty and disagreeable.
Resident
5:55 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Hamster, now its three homes after clearly stating two. You can't even keep your lies straight. I stand by my winter renter with an internet connection post.
William Hammski
5:56 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Flash to you clamdigger > I already said that I DO NOT have a house in Mantoloking and I have electricity, water, sewer, gas and heat. No suffering here.
William Hammski
6:01 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
Resident > My response was to the SSH winter renter post to say it was not in SSH and not a winter renter. Two on the barrier island NOT IN SSH, and one west of Toms River. And TWO internet connections, Cablevision on the barrier and Comcast in the west. And NO connections in SSH.
Bob Short
5:06 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013
What an opportunity here,
charge a $2.00 to enter Rt 35 from Point Pleasant per car - exiting Mantoloking Bridge, then charge another $4.00 to continue to sea side. Then reverse the trip. $4.00 from Seaside to Mantoloking Bridge and another $2.00 to continue towards point.
Why.? you'll be able to give a good portion back to all those residents who live there 50/50 split. Just run it for the next 3 months.
This way everyone wins, The Towns get a cut and the people who are struggling there can get a check in 90days. you already know who lives there.? they all have FEMA numbers, they've all been identified to who's who.. what a great opportunity for tourism into the are for the next 90 days, and those people will be able to get something back.