Toms River Schools to Replace or Repair Bennett 'Bubble'?
Repairs estimated at $300-400,000.
Toms River Regional will hold a special meeting today to approve the repair of the Bennett Athletic Center, which ripped and flattened in Hurricane Sandy.
Discussion on whether to repair or replace the "bubble," which was both rented out for sporting tournaments such as winter track meets and used daily by the district as the gymnasium space for Intermediate East, ensued at the November school board meeting.
Residents as well as school board members and officials debated whether the Bennett Bubble should be fixed, replaced or even rebuilt as a brick building, but Toms River Regional Schools Business Administrator Bill Doering said it was paramount to make a decision as soon as possible since the school was without its regular gym space.
Doering said the Bennett center is used by Intermediate East students daily for gym classes, but that the district also is hoping to have the structure fixed because multiple indoor track meets are scheduled for the winter track season, which starts in December. The district wants to honor those contracts, as renting out the Bennett complex is a source of income for the district.
However, residents and board members debated whether repair was the best option. The life span of the fabric that makes up the air structure is 15 years. Board member Alex Pavliv questioned the profitability of the Bennett Center, while residents called for a more detailed look at whether having the site was worth it or whether a brick building would be forth the cost considering it would appreciate as real estate, instead of depreciate from obsolete materials after 15 years.
Doering said the cost to repair the Bubble would be $300,000-400,000, while replacing it could run $800,000 approximately. A completely new building could require a referendum vote, put before voters on a special election day.
The meeting is scheduled for 7:30 p.m. at Toms River High School North.
Steve Domanski
6:53 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
Just spend the $800k and be done with it.That POS that was there is nothing but an eyesore...even before Sandy !!!!!!!!!
Cynthia
7:00 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
Surely we can afford a building rather than that monstrosity!!!
Ortley
7:03 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
Just raise the taxes on the barrier island again ! Why not....maybe we have 8 kids in the school system. Come on Maria....you know how to screw us over !
Johnjcpa
7:39 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
Sounds like a plan. Did somebody hide the fact that towns tax property for revenue on you? Not happy with your assessment, appeal it. Not happy with your elected representative, vote against them.
Keith Bryant
9:09 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
everything is the barrier island. you people over there thimk your the only people that pay taxes well bad news everyone pays taxes in toms river. Build a new Building and not a Bubble, Get rid of the Rittaco Bubble or Build a Bubble like the one in Riverwood Park No Problems With That One, for the poor people in Ortley who want to live near the Ocean and pay no Taxes Move somewhere else. Tired of hearing Rich Idiots Cry Fowl. Build it and Build it Big For Ortley.
Project Bluebeam
9:48 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
Hey Keith...cry "Fowl"? Would that be turkey, chicken, duck, or goose?
charlotte
8:14 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Ridiculous to think of rebuilding the bubble when you have a 20% loss of tax base and thousands of township residents that are displaced from their homes. It sounds like the mainland doesn't want to be bothered with the barrier island folks - only looking for "what is in it for them". It would be a win-win to form a new barrier island community or join an existing. Comments seem heartless but telling of our culture.
JD
7:49 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
How much of the cost is covered by insurance?
ted.dobracki
8:13 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
Insurance? Ritacco/Gartner took care of that!
Pavlivdogs
8:20 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
Oh come on JD don't u have that info in ur big book of facts & grievances?
Catherine Galioto
8:51 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
The insurance deductible is $100,000, and the district may contract an expert on FEMA to help navigate how to best recoup any costs, even the deductible.
JD
9:01 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
Catherine,
Then doesn't the insurance company call the shots regarding repair or replace?? That is NOT a TRRS decision.
Are you saying, at most it will cost TRRS $100,000?
If that "IS" the case... seems like a no-brainer to me.
Catherine Galioto
2:31 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
No I am not saying that.
Inteastparent
8:10 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
The bubble is a necessary facility for both daily use as a gym & rental space during winter track season. The yellow padders of TR led by Carol Bensen don't want it simple because it was Mr Ritaccos idea. Carol did you forget what it was like when your son had to travel hours away for his meets? Right now without the bubble my kids are squeezed into the gym at Int East each day. So sad. Lets use common sense not hatred this time people
JD
8:14 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
It's not needed for gym classes at Int. East... Int. North does just fine with 1 gym and no bubble.
The bubble should be profitable... otherwise, replace whoever manages the bubble.
The bubble is NOT profitable when you take into account "ALL" costs... in fact, big money loser...
Seriously?
4:07 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
Well, if you're a "parent" of a kid from IE then you'll have a bit of patience regarding gym classes until they get into high school, right? It's only a couple of years?
Oh, wait -- I get it -- you're a -- TRACK PARENT!!! That means that you need to -- must I say it -- DRIVE YOUR KIDS TO MEETS AND PRACTICES!!! OH THE HORROR!!!
Guess what -- the majority of us don't have kids in track, or sports, or even in school anymore. I personally am a bit tired of hearing the "for the kids" crap, and no, I'm not moving out of town because I don't like it. Either suck it up and drive your kids, or make them do a more local sport. I hear there's a new softball field across town that my tax dollars also paid for -- use that.
Mike L
10:02 am on Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Hi, I understand that we should do as much as we can for the kids, but these are trying times. If you believe that this is a necessary facility then why didn't we build a bricks and mortar building in the past? As far as it being a rental property, WHO do we rent it to, OURSELVES, the use of the building is charged to the schools using it, OUR SCHOOLS, do you think that a building with outside "portapotties" would be used by any outside official track meets. It's for intermural use most of the times.....The Administration uses the talking points that the bubble makes money, we are charging ourselves in the schools budget. If you think I am wrong, look at all the groups clambering to get into the "Center" at Toms River North. Another charge ourselves building..........Where did Mr Doering get these figures from, he's no engineer and as far as I remember it takes week to get studies done. Let's get second , third opinion before anything is done....for the love of the children.
charlotte
8:19 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
So many of the kids are so over scheduled with sports they shouldn't have to take gym in school. There should be an opt out for kids that are already involved in ample physical exercise through the extensive professional children's sports networks that are present in our community.
tab
8:18 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
with all the $$ we spent on insurance, do you mean to say that we did not have insurance on the "bubble:?
East gym teacher
8:24 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
JD do you work at East? Without the bubble the gym classes are so crowded that most kids can't participate daily I suggest you get your facts straight before you make statements.
JD
8:31 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
You don't need the bubble for gym... it is a luxury for East... I'm well aware of East facilities and North facilities... and they are similar sized schools.
Pavlivdogs
9:01 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
JD u really need to stop spouting ur opinion as if it were fact. Take a walk through the gym at int east during class time & see for ur self why they need the bubble. Maybe if u got off the dirty slaters payroll u could state an informed opinion instead of just regurgating what the Torrone twins feed u.
JD
9:28 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
It's not that crowded ....dogs....
Since 1/3 of the kids from Int. East failed the NJASK due to substandard teachers at TRRS, they are in Project 200 remedial course during gym at least 1 day per week.
When TRRS hires a Theater Arts major to teach 7th grade math... because mommy and daddy are teachers... you know TRRS has problems...
butch cassidy
10:13 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
ok we get it you were hired by ritacco..who you know or marry?
suz
9:14 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
In my opinion, I think that the BOE has their priorities a little mixed up...more important things to get done than having a gym for the "children" right now. Kids are resilient, they can deal with a smaller gym for the time being.
butch cassidy
10:14 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
thats so true suz....hope people listen it makes so much sense not to put it back up now especially
bassintime
9:58 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
This is a no brainer.... use $2 million dollars in bribes that Ritacco scamed from the school district and rebuild the eye sore bubble that makes no sense. By the way where is the money and what are the plans for putting it back into the system? Mayor Kelaher and Toms River Councilwoman Maria Maruca, Councilmen George Wittman, Jeff Carr and Al Manforti have the resposibility to post it on the Township website and let the residents know how and what the plans are for ithe money before it gets misused or confiscated. We the people have the right to know!
butch cassidy
10:11 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
dump it
Pavlivdogs
10:11 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
JD here u go again spinning ur nonsense & getting off topic. FACT is the gym classes r overcrowded.
JD
10:22 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
You've entered the "no spin zone"...
Just the facts...
1/3 of the kids failed NJASK and have to take a remedial course during Gym.
Theater Arts major hired to teach 7th grade math... this past summer... because mommy and daddy are teachers in the district...
as such... gym class is not that crowded... or should I say... not anymore crowded than TRINorth gym class.
but.. if you read above ... dogs....
For $100,000 out of pocket... I said it was a no brainer... meaning you fork out the $100k and get it repaired.
Eggs-n-Toast
10:25 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
When I was in school we went outside for gym every day, hot or cold, as long as it wasn't really windy, or raining. Only on bad weather days did we stay in the gym and play basketball, or some other game involving running and a ball. Don't kids go outside anymore?
As for the bubble- it was ugly, it wasn't practical and look- now it's been beaten down by weather. Build some other sort of building, with minimal air conditioning, minimal heating, and bleachers for spectators. Pretty much a 'stadium' or sports field with a roof and some walls.
suz
11:03 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
Ya know, I forgot all about outside gym classes...You are right on the money! We always played outside everyday. Gym was only used for pep-rally's and such. Wr are now raising a generation of pansy's!
Kplat
10:28 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
Really people - we need to let the whole Ritacco/bubble eyesore go. I live near the bubble, my kids attend IE and Hooper. They've done a nice job with it. It's set back, they've planted trees - it's far from an eyesore. I can think of many other areas in town that could be deemed an eyesore. As far as kids being resilient - let's stop asking them to take the brunt of the situation - the gym classes are overcrowded, we have hundreds of kids that utilize the bubble for track, it is a necessity. Whatever the most responsible thing to do is - replace / repair, let's do it and move on. Pick something else to focus on. The Restore on Fischer Blvd can still use volunteers. There are still many families displaced (which is all the more reason to have school as normal as possible) - help a family and stop the whining.
Mike L
10:41 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
First of all I don't why we have a building like that.....just shows you, who was in charge of our school monies......Ok, enough said, let me throw this out for discussion. Why not get a prefab steel structure. I've seen many larger than the dome and for way less, get some company in for info and insight......Also here is another thought, the township is looking for space for a storage facility for their records, make the building large enough for both and we don't have to have the township buy land for their up and coming building. We will save on spending township (our) monies for both buildings. One thing someone has to explain to me why the township sells land and then looks to buy more for there projects? Don't forget that insurance monies received would also pay for this, maybe we could use someone in the townships staffing to make up plans for this, we must be paying some one on the inside for planning things like this?
jack Mehoff
10:46 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
The bubble needed to be deflayed prior to the stotrm. The bubbles at Middletown South anfd St John Vianney were deflated snd were fine after the storm. It wsd a case of negligence.
teatleytea
11:07 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
Intereastparent: Perhaps if you went to the BOE meetings you would know that there was NO WAY that anyone would have known that the "bubble" was going in the very beginning. When this (the eventual bubble) was placed on the ballot for a vote it was worded as "Capital Improvement", no where was it listed as an "Air Supported Structure". So, how did Mrs. Benson know that this is what Mr. RItaccco was going to with the money? Is she some kind of clairvoyant? Secondly, at the last BOE meeting, ALL Mrs. Benson asked was if the bubble was to be either repaired or replaced which way would be the most cost effective and why this discussion could not be done out in a public form giving the public a chance to ask questions. She is also concerned about the fact that there are kids going out to this bubble for gym out in the cold with little to no heat in the structure in the winter and no air conditioning in the summer. So, what is wrong with that? Did she show some kind of concern for a child that she should not have?
butch cassidy
5:56 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
did they ever put bathrooms in that thing @eastgym teacher?
I have spoken
11:20 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
It was a hidious eyesore. I'm glad it's gone. Now let's collect the insurance money and build a nice building something we can be proud of. This was just another Ritacco deflated bubble.
Murphy
11:46 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
Carol & her crew r just anti anything ritacco did bottom line is the bubble makes money. Saves money & is a much needed space. If it was Torrones idea Bensen would be praising it from the roof tops
JD
11:53 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
The Bubble does NOT make money....
Pavlivdogs
11:54 am on Monday, November 26, 2012
I WAS at the last mtg. Carol stated she wanted to have a mtg so she could ask questions about the bubble. It has been a thorn in her side from the start mainly cause it wasn't built when her son ran track Get a life & get over the stupid issues
Bonefish
12:02 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
If I recall, there was a vote on the bubble and it was decided by voters NO. Then the next day it goes up.
Somehow the rest of us made it through life with just a gym and field outside. If the income exceeds expenses then rebuild it. If it costs money, remove it.
Steve Domanski
12:33 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
I GOT IT.....put it in the ocean next to the rollercoaster !!!
Sandra
2:26 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
Sorry, the deductable is not even worth the repair. It is low on the priority list unfortunately. Remove it. Was ugly anyway.
jackie pascual
2:53 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
Isnt this structure the same as the structure that came down at the Dallas Cowboys stadium? Which Also came down in a wind storm of 55-65 mph? Seems if it could come down once, it could do it again. Imagine if there where children in it?!!
Not to mention it was an eye sore and the kids hated it, at least all mine did.
I say build a brick building. The district would earn the same in revenue, if not more. The bubble was hardly a professional looking building. If you want to make up the difference, you could always rent out for other community functions.
Just my opinion.
jackie pascual
3:37 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
@east gym teacher....the kids HATE gym class in the bubble. Ask them!
Besides..... There should be a corridor at the very least, so they dont have to walk outside before and after class....and that stupid heavy revolving door in which my kid got his leg caught, and cost a trip to the ER. REMOVE IT!
Seriously?
3:55 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
The pressurized air inside the bubble caused some children to develop breathing problems. I know -- my child was one of them, and had to take gym in the regular gym under a doctor's note. In any event, when my kids were at IE they were outside on the fields for gym most of the year anyway. And, there's no reason why they can't use the winter marking period for a health class for some of the students as they do in high school if they don't already.
That monstrosity would never have been constructed if it had been put on a ballot as a referendum; instead, this was just another one of Ritacco's scams in order to line his pockets. As it was, he tried to get the Schools Construction Corp. to pay for it until they informed him that there was no money for such a project and the taxpayers had to foot the entire bill. The whole thing should be shut down and tossed in the garbage heap.
Ken
5:29 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
Just get rid of it I do not want of my tax dollars spent to fix it, replace it or put up a new building. I agree with a lot of people this is not b=needed for gym. Go outside and in the colder weather take health if you think t is so over crowded. As far as track it is not making money and if Toms River students are on track let them travel just like other sports teams travel.
Joan
5:39 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
Does everyone know that the bubble is a cash business, no registers? Told there was no place to put any more electric. So where does this cash go? How is inventory kept? As far as cleanliness, the fans in there were disgustingly dirty.
JD
6:07 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
Not exactly true....
TRRS rents the facility... gets say $5000 per event.
The Event Director charges the schools a fee... typically $500 for boys and girls teams... and charges an admission fee. The admission fee is cash but that goes to the Event Director. Many events are run by NJSIAA.
The cash portion for TRRS... is the refreshment stand... and we know who runs that...
Ritacco former girlfriend... who also runs 1144 cafe... and Pinebelt arena refreshment stand.
JD
6:10 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
Let me add... TRRS does not HOST any track events... just rents it out for someone else to host and run the event.
butch cassidy
7:01 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
wow another cash only business with tr schools.not surprised remember the ritacco center
Seriously?
9:21 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
You know where the cash went -- everyone on this comment section knows where the cash went. That's why that Bubble should never be rebuilt. Unfortunately as I write this, it will be rebuilt, and the same, corrupt, cash-only operation will be in place.
deathpenaltyforcopkillers
5:47 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
@Seriously, Are you serious ? The pressurized air inside the bubble ? Comon' you can't be that naive. The Air is trapped between an inner an outer membrane and can no way cause breathing problems for anyone. That's like saying your kid can't have balloons at his birthday party because the pressurized air in the balloons cause breathing problems. That's why they call it a bubble.
JD
6:09 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
It can get stuffy in there when there is a large event... lots of hot air... CO2...
Depends on how good the air circulation system is...
Pavlivdogs
6:50 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
JD is all that hot air from u? Frankly I'm sick of ur self confirmed expertise on all subjects large & small. Pretty sure I'm not alone on that. Too bad all ur knowledge hasn't helped u get a job.
JD
7:08 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
dogs... your alone...
You just don't like facing the facts...
Thanks for the complement... how many times do I need to tell you that I'm an expert at most subjects...
Seriously?
9:17 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
Tell that to my kid, you jerk, who would go in there to take gym, run a few steps and start to wheeze and end up in the nurse's office. My kid liked gym too. Our family doctor, who at one time was one of the school district pediatricians, told us that the pressurized air inside the bubble has caused breathing problems in more than one kid in Toms River. Count how many track kids walking around with inhalers at meets.
Christ, the man is locked up and they STILL worship his backside!!!
Seriously?
9:33 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
Pavlivdogs, you spend an inordinate amount of time singing the praises of the school district and everything Ritacco. Frankly, I really don't care, as my kids are out, graduated, and in very good colleges (no thanks to most of the teachers in your union). However, when it comes to that bubble and the health issues of my child, I know what I am talking about.
Maybe if they put that monstrosity back in place they'll put in a better ventilation system so the same thing that happened to my child won't happen to other children.
Pavlivdogs
7:30 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
JD ur an expert in ur own own delusional mind. this blog was the best thing that ever happened to u prior to this no one would listen. Remember just cause its on a news forum doesn't make it a fact....well there is 1 exception. It is a FACT that ur an unemployable blowhard
Donna Griffin
7:39 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
Just as the mayor of SSH wants to keep the collapsed wreckage of the roller coaster right where it is as a memorial of Superstorm Sandy, perhaps we should do the same with the Bubble to commemorate the disaster known as Michael Ritacco?!?!
fed up
8:29 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012
Roll it up and throw it out! Looks like an ugly airplane hanger next to a school. And thats exactly what it is. Let these fat, lazy, rude,spoiled rotten,video game playing,texting,disrespectful, antisocial,asthmatic,peanut allergic little wussies go outside for gym and get some fresh air and exercise like it has been done for thousands of years. Bring back dodge ball, and stop giving these kids trophies for doing absolutely nothing but showing up for the game. so ridiculous!!! Does anyone remember being a kid or not. It definitely was not like this thats for sure. Man up you little $h!t$. no balloons, johnny is alergic to latex. What the hell is a peanut table? does everyone have their purell bottle? no wonder why all these kids get sick so often. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!
sms23
12:46 pm on Thursday, December 20, 2012
@fed up - not quite as "politically correct" as I might put it, but I agree with the sentiment. Outdoors is a huge, free gymnasium. Use it.
butch cassidy
1:11 pm on Tuesday, November 27, 2012
whats wrong with the board voting that in again i dont get it