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Poll: Do You Agree With Komen Decision to Restore Planned Parenthood Funding?

Breast cancer advocacy group reverses course after disqualifying family planning organization from grant consideration

 

After enduring days of criticism, the Susan G. Komen Foundation announced Friday morning it would reverse its decision to cut off grant funding to Planned Parenthood.

Komen founder Nancy Brinker said the foundation has been "distressed at the presumption that the changes made to our funding criteria were done for political reasons or to specifically penalize Planned Parenthood," which provides family planning services, with affiliates in Shrewsbury and Freehold in Monmouth County.

"We want to apologize to the American public for recent decisions that cast doubt upon our commitment to our mission of saving women's lives," Brinker said.

The breast cancer advocacy organization, which raises money nationally via fundraising walkathons, had eliminated grant funding for Planned Parenthood under internal guidelines that bar it from working with organizations under investigation. Planned Parenthood has been subject to a congressional probe. 

However, critics charged that the move was a political capitulation to anti-abortion and conservative activists who object to Planned Parenthood's family planning services.

Brinker said the foundation's internal guidelines would be sharpened to allow existing grants to Planned Parenthood while preserving its ability to apply for future monies.

"Our original desire was to fulfill our fiduciary duty to our donors by not funding grant applications made by organizations under investigation. We will amend the criteria to make clear that disqualifying investigations must be criminal and conclusive in nature and not political.

"Our only goal for our granting process is to support women and families in the fight against breast cancer. Amending our criteria will ensure that politics has no place in our grant process. We will continue to fund existing grants, including those of Planned Parenthood, and preserve their eligibility to apply for future grants, while maintaining the ability of our affiliates to make funding decisions that meet the needs of their communities," Brinker said.

Planned Parenthood has more than 800 health centers across the nation and is the largest provider of abortions in the country. The organization provides reproductive health care for women and men, as well as cancer screenings, including 4 million breast exams in the last 5 years. The Komen foundation has been working in partnership with Planned Parenthood since 2005 to provide breast cancer screenings.

Do you agree with the Komen decision to reverse course and continue funding Planned Parenthood grants? Take our poll and tell us in the comments.

Related Topics: Komen, Planned Parenthood, and race for the cure

Shawn

3:01 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

Why would someone say no?

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DaPoppa

7:06 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

This is why I would say NO ... Because I donate to an organization that is suppose to support breat cancer research, I do not want my money to support the killing on an unborn child. I have not donated to Korman for years because of their support of baby killers. That's why ... 45 million unborn children killed in this nation. Why would you say yes?

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Mark Wendell

6:46 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Yes I do aggree. Planened Parenthood, as the article above has said, provided 4 million breast exams to people who could never afford a momogram. Komen, as the article above said, has worked with P.P. to give breast cancer screenings since 2005. Komen should not have bowed to pressure in the first place, I doubt any organazation in the country has given out 4 million no or low cost exams in the last 5 years. The anti abortion crowd loves to paint P.P. as a wholesale abortion clinic but thats just to support their opinion on abortion and not what happens at P.P. in real life.

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rightwing

10:20 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Now that Komen has been exposed for supporting PP's campaign of death, I and many others will stop donating to them, forever. All of the recent donations to PP, meant to grab media attention, like Michael Bloomberg's, will not be maintained after the cameras are turned off. The true supporters, of women's health care and the right to life, will remember the lives ended because of Komen's decision.

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George

9:42 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

If they want to impose the Repugnants' slanted Faux News views on everyone else, they'd say no.

chattsworth

5:00 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

People should stop donating to Komen and donate to Planned Parenthood instead. Stop the assault on women's reproductive rights. Komen can go screw.

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Project Bluebeam

8:02 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

How mature!...that's winning their hearts and minds.

Komen is a PRIVATE organization that was founded to fight breast cancer. Planned Parenthood doesn't even do mammograms. They should have never received a penny in the first place.

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Helen

7:43 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Assault on women's reproductive rights??? Where are we in the dark ages? Ever heard of birth control or just plain say no?? There's no excuse for killing a baby for your own stupidity. With all this so-called sex ed why are there so many unwanted pregnancies? So no or take a damn pill. Komen should just provide the money directly through their program to the poor women (who most likely get medicaid)without filtering it through the baby killers. Their credibility is shot. Don't worry, through Obamacare they'll be abortions and contraception for all and nonovert rationed care for the elderly and the "non-productive" (get the picture, population control). Wake up.

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rightwing

10:18 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Now that Komen has been exposed for supporting PP's campaign of death, I and many others will stop donating to them, forever. All of the recent donations to PP, meant to grab media attention, like Michael Bloomberg's, will not be maintained after the cameras are turned off. The true supporters, of women's health care and the right to life, will remember the lives ended because of Komen's decision.

Mike Ryan

5:18 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

I thought Komen money goes to breast cancer research... As a pre-Roe v. Wade (thank God), adopted person I suggest supporting the Avon Foundation for Women.

Jim

7:02 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

No. The foundation is supposed to be about breast cancer, not killing babies.

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sig

12:17 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Grants require a ton of followup paperwork! The way budgets in organizations like these work is they direct the money to what the grant is for and have to prove it; so the money from Komen would only be applied to the 14.5% of Planned Parenthoods patients and education that are cancer screenings and prevention. The astronomical 3% of Planned Parenthood's business of abortions are funded from other sources.

Trish

7:24 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

The Susan G. Komen slogan is "for the cure". Breast cancer research. Not killing babies! No more support from me.

Doris Cauda

7:28 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

Planned Parenthood has received millions of dollars from the US Government and is under investigation because no one knows where the money goes. They answer to no one.They DO NOT do mammograms. They hand out birth control pills and perform abortions. As far as Komen, they have been beaten into turning over tons of money to a questionable organization. I will no longer support the Komen Foundation because I will not support abortion even though my tax dollars do through Obamacare. This is out of my control unfortunately.

Helen

8:03 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

No more donations to Komen from me. Killing babies, no thanks.

Cathy Kelly

8:20 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

This is sad,many have lost family members/friends to breast cancer,this was the one organization that I thought was truly about research,prevention and finding a cure for Breast Cancer.

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Karen Bush

12:49 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

If you really believe that Komen is about research and finding a cure for breast cancer I respectfully suggest you do some research into just how much of the money that Komen takes in yearly actually goes to research, and how much goes to administrative costs. They are paying out an awful lot of money in salaries to bigwigs each year. Charity Navigator and Guidestar.com are great reference sources for seeing how the money you donate really is spent. And that goes for any charity, by the way.

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DD Smith

10:47 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

@Cathy Kelly, No one can be trusted in what they claim to stand for. Sadly a lot of organizations are corrupt. All though most are in denial and will not admit this.

Laura

10:13 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

Dapoppa,

If you can't spell it correctly, I doubt you donate to them. Maybe you can tell the woman mentioned below that Planned Parenthood didn't help her.

"It worked for Michele Azzaro, 45, of Dallas, who first went to Planned Parenthood when she found a lump back in her 20s. It turned out not to be cancerous, and a mammogram provided through Planned Parenthood ruled out cancer again last year."

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DaPoppa

12:18 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Laura ... Have no doubt, I do not donate. Have no doubt, I used to donate, doing the cancer walks and raising money for others that did the walks in other cities. Sorry my iPad changed Komen to Korman ... But thanks for spell checking.

Planned Parenthood does NOT perform mammograms. Planned Parenthood does kill babies.

Cathy Kelly

10:44 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

Laura,as someone who has no problem with planned parenthood,I think you are missing the point. If people donate money than they are entitled to know where that money is going. I was under the assumption that Komen was strictly for research,treatment and prevention of breast cancer... Until there is a cure for this disease than there should not be any money left over for anything other than what it was intended for... Everyone has a choice on what they want to donate for,if people feel strongly about planned parenthood than thats where they should donate. Komen is representing itself for the benefit of breast cancer,not planned parenthood. As of today,there is no cure for breast cancer,therefore every dime that is donated should go to finding a cure,nothing else

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Swift Loris

11:18 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

Cathy, if Komen supports prevention of breast cancer, then there's an excellent reason for it to support Planned Parenthood. No, PP doesn't itself do mammograms. What it does do is give a preliminary breast exam, then if necessary refer the patient for a mammogram. Many of the women who use PP couldn't get one otherwise because they don't have insurance and can't afford to see a personal physician to give them the referral.

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Laura

12:23 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Then you should also be aware of how much of your donation goes to actual research versus administrative costs.

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DaPoppa

12:22 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Swift .... So we should be OK with the fact that before PP kills an unborn baby, they checks for breast lumps and refers pregnant woman to do a mammogram. Oh! That changes everything! Then by all means. Take the money that I thought was going for breast cancer research and cancer patient advocacy and give it to PP so they can check for lumps before they kill a baby. Yup ... Great argument.

Cathy Kelly

11:41 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

Swift, I respectfully disagree....All woman can give themselves preliminary exams and all woman over 30 should get a mammogram,,,that I agree with,the government has many programs that allow this to happen...Again,I will say,that I as well as many others had no idea that the money that Komen was receiving was going to planned parenthood etc...I thought it was for research etc...for breast cancer,,,

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sig

12:25 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

See my response above about how grant money is directed in organizations. The 3% of Planned Parenthood's business that everyone harps on can easily come from general funds; no grants, no government help etc... Grant money is applied solely for it's intended purpose. Any money Komen has given to Planned Parenthood in the past is earmarked just for their cancer screening and prevention.

Not that I'm suggesting anyone ever again donate to Komen.

sig

11:54 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

The Komen statement today was the worst case of a non-apology ever! They never said they were going to stop this year's grant in the first place and they haven't said they'll continue to fund PP. This statement was made to cover their behinds, because the so called "new rule" would have jeopardized others they fund like the investigated Penn State! I would never donate to Komen again, because they aren't trustworthy. PP helps thousands of woman detect breast cancer early enough to help them. The right-to-lifers only worry about unborn, but not those living without insurance?? Imagine an uninsured, poor mom has a baby, a right-to-lifer would then say okay you're on your own as we don't believe in welfare?? Crazy.

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Cathy Kelly

12:13 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Sig,just out of curiosity,how does planned parenthood help thousands of woman detect breast cancer?

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sig

1:04 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Cathy, according to the last annual report available, in 2009 and 2010, they saw 1,577,919 patients for breast exams/breast care. Page 5 of this http://issuu.com/actionfund/docs/ppfa_financials_2010_122711_web_vf?mode=window&viewMode=doublePage

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Helen

1:31 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

sig does the breast exam go along with the abortion (aka killing the baby)?

johnny d

3:20 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

project moonbeam as usual you havent the foggiest idea. you and the rest of the religious kooks are dooming those women who cant afford breast and pap screenings to go off and die somewhere. like republican jon kyl last year said to congress that planned parenthood was over 90% abortions when the real number is 3% and many of them are rape and incest victims.then when kyl realized he screwed up his office released the statemt "mr kyl's statements were not intended to be factual " so basically someone can pull any number out of ther butt and enter into the congressional record and then say "oops i didnt mean that. and these millions of unwanted babies who will go thru their lives from foster home to foster home. bluebeam how many are you going to adopt? people who force their religious views on others people like bluebeam and helen are no better than the " God hates fags" crowd that tell the families of soldiers and that their sons are in hell. theres a reason the founding fathers made it seperation of church and state. to protect people who cant defend themselves from people like you

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StayCalm

7:55 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

THANK YOU, Johnny D. I stayed out of this 'discussion' because I'm sick and tired of arguing the same old (erroneous) FoxNews talking points and religious anti-medical, anti-scientific nonsense regarding early pregnancy terminations. But even so, it's refreshing to see others with some patience left who will say what needs to be said....

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Project Bluebeam

10:11 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

More personal attacks? I did not mention religion, nor did I bash science, and I rarely watch TV. Typical lib...when your argument has no merit, ignore the facts and resort to name-calling. The simple fact is that PP does not do mammograms and Komen is NOT required to fund them.

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Doris Cauda

11:28 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

You are straying from the topic, which was Komen donating money to Planned Parenthood. Susan G. Komen Foundation touts itself as promoting a cure for breast cancer. Planned Parenthood hands out birth control pills and does several hundred thousand abortions each year. When donating to SG Komen, we thought we were donating "for the cure" not to give to PP.

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DaPoppa

12:26 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Condemning them to go off and die? Please tell me what hospital is allowed to turn away anyone coming to them for care. They're not allowed to do it because it's against the law. Please stop using this strawman argument to drum up sympathy for something that simply does not exist, so we're forced to allow my money to go kill unborn babies.

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DaPoppa

12:27 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

"early pregnancy termination" = killing an unborn baby. But, if making it politically correct makes you feel better about killing babies, go for it. I'll continue to call it what it is.

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Spooner

12:57 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

@Doris Cauda: according Planned Parenthood 2010 Annual Report posted by 'sig', PP showed about $330,000 in expenditures for abortions as compared to well over $10,000,000 for testing and prevention. . . so where do you get that 700,000 number of abortions figure from? You have to back up your statements with facts. . .and again if you look at their report. . .quite a bit of money goes into cancer services(about five times the money than abortion) The bulk of their money goes for Sexually Transmitted Infections(STI) testing and Contraception. . .In my view this was politically motivated to provide an acceptable exit for Nancy Brinker, whose been getting a lot of flack from her Republican friends. . .Breast Cancer knows NO politics Ms. Brinker!

Billabong

9:19 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

I bet that all of these people bashing Komen wouldn't talk so boldly if they or someone in their family needed the organization's services. Komen is one of the preeminent cancer organizations in the country and they have the right to fund any organization they please. That being said, if any person or group makes a gift to an organization they need to do some research. Most gifts (from general donations, solicitations, fundraisers, etc.) fall under the category of unrestricted gifts. If you're giving an unrestricted gift, the organization can use it toward anything at all (staff salaries, fundraising costs, programs, etc.). There is also the option of giving a restricted gift - one in which the donor specifies the funds must be used for. My question is - if Komen wants to ensure their dollars go to a specific program, why are they not restricting their gift to those programs?

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Karen Bush

12:57 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Billabong,
Any organization that gives grants typically puts restrictions on how the money can be used. I'm sure if anyone took a little time to research it they would find the grants that Komen was giving to Planned Parenthood were earmarked only for breast cancer screening. By law, if you are a 501(c)(3) and you receive a grant that has a specified purpose, you cannot spend that money on anything but that purpose or the IRS will take away your 501(c)(3) status.
Giving to national organizations very often means you're giving money that isn't getting to where it's needed most -- and that is true with Komen. The better option is to give locally. Find a group that does work in your community and help them, because too many of these national organizations have turned to slick national campaigns that cost them a lot of money to run and that put very little money into the project that they're raising the money for.

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Helen

1:28 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

@KB so the money earmarked by Komen for Breast Cancer screening frees up their other monies for the baby killing. PP is just a political organization hiding behind the freedom of choice baby killing bunch. Women have the freedom of choice to say no or using birth control. Killing a baby after they make A CHOICE to perform an act that results in pregnancy is shameful.

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Billabong

2:45 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Karen, I don't agree with your assessment "Giving to national organizations very often means you're giving money that isn't getting to where it's needed most." I could name plenty of national organizations that do great work and get the money to where it's supposed to go. But yes, there are orgs that operate under a high overhead. There are also organization's whose boards have been a mess over the years (see the American Red Cross). As a donor, you need to research any organization. Just because an organization is local (or national for that matter) is no indication that they are operating effectively. I've been involved in the nonprofit sector for over 15 years, I know the IRS guidelines, and I spoken with some of the most influential people in the charitable sector but when it comes to giving your money it always comes down to the same thing - doing your due diligence.

Phil Checchia

9:24 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Our donating and all the efforts behind local and regional events raises money for cancer research and on to a cure.
How does birth control benefit breast cancer?
If ti's birth control someone wants it is available at a pharmacist or Planned Parenthood.
it's time to give to the ACS only and not Komen for birth control.
I'll bet the WhiteHouse hadpressure on the Komen Organization to do the dancing 180.Give to the ACS and our local hospice.

Jim

12:47 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

PP aborts children who can feel pain; children who can live outside their mothers wombs. Horrible. You abortion people either are uninformed about what really happens, or are unspeakably indifferent to HUMAN suffering.

Hearme

3:08 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

This is disgusting. I am sickened by how uninformed so many of you are . Abortions are NOT BABY KILLING! Stop stating it as a fact when you are totally incorrect. Also the morons that make statement that most of these people that get abortions are on medicaid is ridiculous and obviously speaks to your prejudices against people who are less fortunate than you. For you information not everyone that has a unwanted pregnancy is some slut that spreads her legs for everyone then uses abortion to fix the problem. For your information most people that get pregnant & had abortions got pregnant from things like failed birth-control, rape,& insest .Or might be getting an abortion due to a doctors advice because the child would be so badly disabled that that child would have no quality of life & may suffer through the little life it might have had. Or at times it is to save the woman's life.You people are so ignorant not to mention your tactics for trying to convince people of your ridiculous and outlandish views are disgusting!

I've known women that had abortions. It's never taken lightly & always leaves an emotional scare they have to live with. But every one did it for a very good reason & knows they did the right thing. How dare you call them the horrific names you do & judge them the way you do.

Try reading a book besides your bible and you might be more informed.
I'm glad that they reversed the decision & they have decided not to pull the donation from Planned Parenthood!

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Helen

7:32 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Not baby killing? Late term abortion pull out a live babies head and stab scissors into the back of the skull/neck to kill the baby. Yes, killing the baby is what it is. Ever seen an ultrasound? Yes, killing a baby is what it is. Go save a sardine!

Jim

4:57 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Hearme: I heard you.
Dare to learn about abortion procedures that are performed on babies that can feel pain. Only the most hardened hearts can approve of such things. I can bang out 20 paragraphs also, but needn't, because I am not trying to persuade people that it's okay to cut apart an unborn child.

Ann

5:28 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

SOME OF YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES! For the women who cannot afford a private doctor they NEED Planned Parenthood! This organization saves LIVES. How dare any of you put your own personel feelings about abortion (most of them done for health reasons, rape or incest) ahead of tests that are done, to Save lives is just plain WRONG! Please think before you spout out inaccurate non-facts. No one is going to preach to women that need their help. Go vote for Santorum!!! See what he does for you.

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JOHNNY Done it

11:27 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Agreed, Don't wait for ,Obama care either.......

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Helen

7:30 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Ever heard of Medicaid? PP is a political money pit.

Ann

5:33 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Also, when a women NEEDS an abortion, she is left with a broken heart that never heals. So please, STOP saying "baby killing". To call these women names, and stand in judgement of them is disgusting. They and only they will have to try and find a way to live the rest of their lives KNOWING they made the right choce. I thank God they STILL have the right to choose!!!!

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Helen

7:29 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Choose the pill or say no. That's a far better choice. A very small percentage NEED to kill the baby. Killing the babies is their way of birth control (and the progressives way of population control).

Michelle Callas

5:46 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Lets not forget that planned parenthood teaches women how to do self breast exams and performs them at routine appointments. Isn't that the point? Early detection!

Jim

8:28 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Saying "baby killing" is far less offensive than doing it or advocating it. Read about abortion procedures and dig deep to see whether you feel anything for these babies whose only crime is being in the womb. Do you know HOW they kill these children?

Jim

8:39 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Okay, here's an excercise for you: Could you do to child who is outside the womb what an abortionist does to a child who is inside the womb? Could you use those scissors on that childs arms legs and neck?

johnny d

8:52 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

and how many of you are concerned about their "suffering" after they are born ? you read about the woman last week who left her 3 and 5 yr old daughters on a busy street in brooklyn with extra diapers in their hands. spending yrs being shuffled between foster homes . often abused. the same people here that have no problem cutting education and nutrtional programs as well as the epa. so they have to be born after that as far as all of you are concerned they can be uneducated, hungry and breathe filthy air and water. all of you will only end up bringing back the days of the back alley abortions where teenage girls spent a few days in pain before bleeding to death .but then again they would get sent to hell and isnt that what all teenage girls who didnt have things like planned parenthood to help them understand more about birth control really deserve anyway? how many of you feel like the answer is yes to that ?

Tim O'Connor

8:58 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Abortions is killing babies. Simple.

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StayCalm

10:45 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Abortion is a LEGAL Medical Procedure. Simple.
Medical Procedures are between a doctor and patient; not your business. <-- even more simple.

Jim

9:21 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Johnny D, You presume to know my opinions regarding the EPA, social programs and personal charity. You work from stereotypes of your own design, and are wrong. ...about so many things.

DD Smith

11:00 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

It comes down to everyone likes to judge others even though they do not know the entire picture. Maybe it is private and none of anyone's business why? or What a women decides to do with her own body.

DD Smith

11:14 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

There is nothing wrong with having your opinion on an issues. Everyone is going to have their own, just like everyone has an an-hole. Who is to say who is right and who is not? Each other? Really? Get a life and how about everyone make their own choices and decide what is best for themselves.

JOHNNY Done it

11:25 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

I believe this organization is to help woman . It may be by reducing costs on medical exams or on procedures I commend them for that..Since our government is failing in this dept..Going to this organization is a choice , as DD Smith stated

Tim O'Connor

12:15 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Abortion maybe legal, but it is still killing a baby!

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StayCalm

10:22 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

War is legal. But it still kills MILLIONS of people around the world; and many times We (the USA) are involved in those wars- by choice. It's killing. Massive killing, and we choose to participate in it.
How is that justified, but a woman making a personal decision to terminate her own pregnancy to prevent a future birth, isn't?
Why is it important to control and dictate what each and every singular woman does in this country (with her own body!) which doesn't affect anyone but her-- but killing thousands upon thousands of young, healthy, ALIVE men and women -AND CHILDREN- in war is something we consider a "necessary" loss of life? How does that priority make sense?

Jim

12:28 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

DD, You ask "who is to say who is right or not". Is nothing wrong? Arson, theft, battery? We make judgements all of the time. It is right and necessary for a civilized society. I believe in kindness, gentleness and charity for all people...including those who are entirely dependent upon our mercy.

Bill Cox

6:56 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Those that will react in horror at a commericial for animal cruelty, those that scream about the protecting the environment from drilling, those that will protest our military for actions taken during war will also defend a woman's right to choose. No need to think of the unborn, to them it is a mere bloodclot of cells. No need to think that perhaps this unborn child might be the one to grow into the doctor who finds the cure for cancer. If we think perhaps that has already happened and now we must wait till the next child comes who will do this, if they have not been "chosen away"

Hearme

2:36 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

These outrageous lies are disgusting at best! How dare you ignorant people judge others without even knowing the truth. Not to mention you spread disgusting lies about doing abortions to babies that are almost to term and then stabbing with scissors. OMG You can't believe this crap you spew! If anything should be illegal it should be this kind of twisted crap you put out there. Doctors DON'T preform late term abortions.The people that had abortions that you described are the back door abortion clinics before it was legal. The logic you use of cells being a baby would be like saying when she has her period and her body expels the egg that she lost a baby. Do you blame women for miscarriages as well? You people are sick. READ A REAL BOOK get your noses out of your bibles.

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Bill Cox

5:07 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

Sorry, you are wrong and doctors do preform late term abortions. Read it for yourself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_termination_of_pregnancy. This happens today, all over the world. Also, I did not find this information in the Bible and I do not appreciate being called sick, ignorant or a liar. You are the one who really needs to get your "facts" correct.

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StayCalm

10:02 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

We already have very strict guidelines that severely limit the circumstances under which a late-term abortion can be done. It is a very RARE occurance. Look up the stats yourself, but NOT on religiously affiliated right to life sites... look up gov. stats.

As for early pregnancy terminations (prior to 14 weeks) which is the VAST MAJORITY of abortions done, there is no "baby" to tear apart, there is no "baby" to feel pain. There is no "baby" being killed. Babies are born. Fetuses are aborted. In the very early stages it is a clump of cells which looks very similar to a blood clot. It is NOT a 'baby'. No brain, no lungs, no internal organs to speak of and no way to live without connection to the woman's body. Repeat: It is not a "baby".
Also the reason for an abortion is none of your business. A woman chooses to have one and (some of) you people want to moralize on their reasons, well, too bad.
It's not your business if it's a "birth control method", or a medical necessity, or a decision based on emotional or financial circumstances. It's LEGAL. Get over it.

Work to change the laws if you don't like it... but leave women to their CHOICES until that happens.

Hearme

9:01 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

Bill Cox ...We are disusing what happens IN THIS COUNTRY at current time buy law abiding, reputable doctors. For your information Wikipedia is stuff everyday people enter. It is not fact checked and has wrong information all the time. Examples that even ignorant people like you can understand are: Wikipedia reports many celebrity deaths even though the person is very much alive and have repeatedly asked them to correct it.Senator Edward Kennedy - who was pronounced dead by an anonymous Wikipedia editor after collapsing at President Obama's inauguration lunch .

Furthermore I really don't care if you "appreciate? what I said. Sometimes the truth hurts. You are ignorant, sick and a liar if you spew the things like I have read throughout this thread from Helen, yourself and others.

BN

10:04 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

Methinks someone needs to revisit the "terms of use"....your posts are laced with violations.

Mattie

10:38 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

Observation:

Topic; abortion / Planned Parenthood
Very emotionally charged topic, strong feelings on all sides. Posts swing from logical and calm, to outraged and fanatical. Ok, that's to be expected, right? So far nearly 75 comments on this topic, no deletions, no shutting down the comment section.

Topic; Martin Luther King / civil rights (Manchester Patch)
Not even ten comments and the comment section was shut down thanks to a few who made racist comments and derogatory remarks re; MLK. Certainly not fair.
And apparently not considered important enough to edit but keep open.

Just an 'interesting' observation....

L

11:18 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

The majority of people who go to Planned Parenthood don't go there for abortions. A lot of the clinics don't even offer abortion services. They offer abortion referrals where they give a list of health care providers who perform abortion services. People go there go for education services, sexual and reproductive health care, medical testing, birth control, support services and counseling (rape crisis, sexual assault services). They offer a wide range of women's health care services, including breast exams and mammogram referrals when and if appropriate. Their mission is not to kill babies.

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Eggs-n-Toast

11:27 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

100% correct, L. Can't be said often enough, however, we all know that so many refuse to listen....

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