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'Reluctantly,' Toms River Adopts FEMA Flood Map Guidelines

Adopting the guidelines in an ordinance allows continued ability to receive federal funds

 

Though Toms River Township Council members repeatedly have said they don't agree with the interim FEMA flood elevation maps, they voted Tuesday to adopt the guidelines as not to jeopardize federal and other funding.

"We're adopting them because the current executive order from the governor remains in effect and is the law of the land whether we adopt this ordinance or not," said Council President George Wittmann during the governing body's regular meeting Tuesday evening. 

In Superstorm Sandy's wake, Gov. Chris Christie announced in late January that the state would adopt the Advisory Base Flood Elevation maps, which supersedes any municipal ordinances. FEMA officials have said the maps are on the conservative side and could be amended before their final adoption.

The council was told by federal officials that they had until Tuesday to adopt an ordinance accepting the maps. If they didn't, it would "put in jeopardy" participation in the National Flood Insurance Program, which could impact mortgages and commerce in Toms River, Wittmann said. 

Additionally, $60 million in Increased Cost of Compliance applications could have been denied, as residents have said insurers Allstate and Fidelity would not pay claims without the ordinance in place, according to Wittmann. 

Adoption also ensures that reimbursement funds for past and future recovery work will come to Toms River, according to the council. 

The ordinance establishes that the township's Planning Board will hear appeals to the mapping, but township attorney Kenneth Fitzsimmons said that it would take an "extreme basis" for variances to be granted. Too many positive appeals could disqualify Toms River from participating in the National Flood Insurance Program. 

Anchorage Drive resident David Lipton was affected by Sandy's flooding and took exception to the council's adoption of the maps. The council should continue to oppose them, he said in a lenghty exchange with the council during a public hearing on the ordinance.

But, "the governor's order is in full effect," Wittmann said. "The FEMA maps are adopted by the governor by executive order whether we adopt them or not."

Under FEMA regulations, the interim maps in use now cannot be appealed, according to the council. Should the final maps in August continue to have what are seen as inaccuracies, the township can and will appeal then.

"We can't challenge them until they come out with something solid," Wittmann said. 

George Kasimos, who organized Stop FEMA Now shortly after the agency released the advisory base flood elevation data, thanked the council and township administrators for their opposition to the maps, including a resolution opposing them and letters written to federal and state officials. Several council members were present during that group's meeting last weekend.

"I appreciate everything you're doing for us. I really do. I think that with your help we can change it," he said.

All council members — except for John Sevastakis who had an excused abense for a family matter — voted in favor of the ordinance, but several indicated that they did so "reluctantly," like Mo Hill. 

"I wrestled with the ordinance as late as [Tuesday] afternoon," Hill said. But in the end, it needed to be approved to ensure federal dollars continue coming to Toms River. 

"We need to get reimbursed. That is too much to put at risk," Council Vice President Maria Maruca said.

The township and residents — including grassroots groups like the one formed by Kasimos — need to continue a "full-court press" on FEMA to ensure the final maps are accurate, Maruca said. 

Council members said that the township should take action in the form of a resolution to the state Department of Banking and Insurance to investigate claims of insurers holding the funds residents need to rebuild. 

About this column: News and essential information about Hurricane Sandy in New Jersey. Related Topics: FEMA flood maps, Hurricane Sandy, Stop FEMA Now, and toms river township council

SFN member

7:41 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

This is a terrible day for all of us in Toms River. The adoption was a formality (or threat) so that claims can continue to be paid. This is a sad commentary about our judicial and governmental processes to knowingly be forced to accept something that is vehemently wrong. This is extortion by the Feds to our local community. Town hall should have been packed last night just like the first aid squad was on Saturday to put on the public record your feelings about this. My support is still with our council leaders who will continue to fight for us, despite the puppeteering by FEMA. We must STOP FEMA NOW...go to the website, LIKE us on Facebook, and lets stick together as a community.

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Beverly Krasner

6:30 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

So what is Toms River Township doing with the 38 million dollars that it received from adopting the maps? Are they going spend it on the police department and boardwalk? Or are they going to take OUR money and combine it with other townships and do what Robert Schalhoub said n addition, we need to take lessons from other parts of the world. We should be installing flood control gates at the mouth of the Canal on the Manasquan River and for the LBI Inlet. These types of systems ahve been installed with great success in the Netherlands, and the UK. Yes, they are expensive, but they provide a true solution for the root cause and would ensure flood protection for the back bay for the forseeable future. They would also protect the barrier island from flooding that comes from the bayside which was a significant problem with Sandy."

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wookfish

7:19 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Bev the ocean washed OVER the island INTO the bay not the other way around...you can not change what mother nature does..

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Rick

9:29 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Wookfish, not necessarily so. High tide at Barnegat occurs several hours before it occurs in places such as Waretown or Barnegat. So the tide is getting higher in the bay while ocean tide is already receding.

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wookfish

8:01 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

let me get this straight Ric...the bay filled up so much that it caused the dunes to fail thus washing out into the ocean? Go back to kindergarten, you need to start the learning process all over

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mjmjr

10:47 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

ONE THINK IS TRUE,WE FLOODED,IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN,RAISE YOUR HOMES OR MOVE,THERE IS NO OTHER WAY,IT HAD TO BE ADOPTED.

Sue

7:52 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

The website is Facebook.com/StopFemaNow. Lots of info about erroneous maps, extravagant elevation mandates and exorbitant annual insurance costs that you should know.

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Carol

8:06 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Sure throw us under the bus and then put it in reverse! Clean up the bay so the level goes down!!

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Nancy

8:44 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Carol, you should run for Governor as you have the answer - dredge the bay. Just by going over th bridge we can see its much higher than it used to be. I guess thats why we're 'common' people, we have all the 'common' sense it takes to do the job right.

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Rick

2:37 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Carol, Did you know that cleaning up the bay won't lower the water level? Water seeks its own level (Hydraulics 101). Even if they pulled out all the debris and dredged the entire bay, the water level would be the same.
The bay fills from the ocean, so unless you can lower level the ocean, the bay will stay the same.

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Frank

5:47 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

@Rick: No one is debating the level at the top. The issue is the depth level at the bottom, allowing more volume and larger cushion over the same area. Millions of cubic yards of sediment washed into the bay are new to the equation.

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Rick

9:38 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Really Frank? If you have two backyard pools where one two feet deep and the water is 3 inches from the top and another which is four feet deep and also 3 inches from the top, which one will overflow first if you add an extra 1000 gallons of water?
Oh yeah, they will both overflow at the same time and spill the same amount of water.

ChiefWahoo

8:09 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

I just read same exact story in Berkeley.

Looks like Christie and Gilmore have passed out the Republican talking points play book. All Republucants with dreams of living off the taxpayers work and sweat must memorize the playbook word for word or they will be dealt with harshly and have a result worse than death ...... Sent back to the private sector.

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Walter M. Keeton

10:27 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

You are dense with rose color glasses. Get your party correct, its the Dem's that are sucking up all the peoples monies.
Diver

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S. Bar

2:32 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Chief Wahoo...what are you talking about? Romney (R) is the one who wanted to get rid of FEMA and give block grants to the states so they could control their own emergency management.

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ChiefWahoo

2:49 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

What am I talking about ???..... I am talking about Berkeley and TR both using same spin and talking points of protest and reluctantly approve FEMA.

Can't have it both ways. Either you approve them (which they did) or you fight them.

They do not care about the homeowners. Neither gang of thiefs. No difference.

We need a reset. Anarcho - Capitalism. Volunteerism. That is what I talking about. Stop rooting for a blue team or a red team.

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wookfish

2:50 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

your point S.Bar? noones going anywhere anyway.

Dave R

9:51 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Dredging the bay will cause the water to be lower? I don't live next to the ocean so I may not understand how this works. Could someone explain how dredging will protect homes a few feet above sea level that are situated next to the ocean.

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Floodgate

10:16 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Isn't the bay level always going to be relevant to ocean level or is the dredging for better drainage?

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YouthPastor

10:24 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Dave R, dredging the bay will help alleviate the flooding on the mainland, not the ocean front homes. There is too much sand from Sandy in the bay that got dumped in there when the ocean met the bay. Now everytime we on the mainland get a minor storm, there is flooding in neighborhoods that rarely ever got flooded before.

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S. Bar

3:03 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

It is more complicated then sand in the bay. That seems like the logical answer but we are not engineers or marine scientists. Only the Corp of Engineers is large enough to make a model and figure it out to make sure we don't waste money doing something that won't help.

YouthPastor

10:26 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

I am starting to be become convinced that the key is the massive dune that they want to build, from Manasquan inlet down to the Barnegat Inlet. I am hearing if they build it FEMA will drop the new BFE and flood insurance will go down.

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Joyce Andersen

10:53 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

I have lived in Snug Harbor for 37 years, on the first street from the bay. There is only 1 street leading to my street, so it's the only way in or out. In the first 12 or so years that I have lived here, my street flooded at the intersecting corner only twice. It was so unusual that our neighbors all came to see it and take pictures. Now it is a regular occurance and we have to schedule our days according to the tide schedule. If you can picture a bucket that holds a gallon of water, drop in some Monopoly houses, toy cars and boats, and a large scoop of sand, you won't be able to pour that gallon of water into it. This is our bay. The storm drainage systems on lagoon streets empty into the lagoons. When the level of the bay and lagoons rises above the street level, the water comes through the drains and INTO the streets; hence, flooded streets that hold residents hostage until the tide recedes. Dredging the bay of debris and extra sand will not only open the bay to boat travel, but will also help the residents who depend on navigable streets. We need this help soon!!

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Rick

5:31 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

HUH? If you try to put 2 gallons of water in that one gallon bucket, it is going to spill over whether or not you have some sand and Monopoly houses etc in the bucket or not.

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wookfish

7:14 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

and why should every taxpayer in the state/nation fund this project for you?

RJ Ciallella

10:55 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Why is it we can provide aid to other countries but can't find the will to take care of our own

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letsgetreal

12:00 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

RJ
You make probably the best point on here...sadly this Gov feels its ok to send 250,000,000 to Egypt but we cannot get FED money or actions to fix the issues here quick enough...

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S. Bar

3:04 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Ask obama why he is seining MILLIONS in military aid to Egypt when he said he doesn't know if they are our friend

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wookfish

6:15 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

as long as their muslims like him, they'll get your money....that's whyS.Bar

TRman

11:54 am on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

OK I know it must have been posted a dozen times but I can not find the current Toms River map. Anyone know where I can find it? Thanks

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its over

12:52 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

http://eastcoastsurfer.com/

For everyone who thinks debris is causing the bay to rise....its not the debris....please read

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S. Bar

3:05 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

I agree "its over". It may be debris or may not be. We can't afford to spend millions on dredging the bay until we know it is DEFINITELY the issue.

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Johnjcpa

5:51 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

If you continue to link to actual information, you're likely to be banned. What would be useful for ocean front property would be an indication from the ACE as to when any significant dredging can be started on the Barnegat-Point Pleasant project as most dredging equipment has been committed to the replenishment of LBI.

its over

5:55 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Now i hope another storm comes and wipes out everything,.....we will have nothing and that's what most of us are gonna have anyway

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tlc

6:16 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

The bay is tidal so with each tide water goes in, then it goes out. The more capacity the bay has the less likely it would reach its limit before the outgoing tide. Its a timed event which could be controlled.The tide could be restricted or slowed down at the inlets creating a lower bay level. Water does seek its own level, its the rate that this occurs that is important

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Rick

7:22 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

The surface of a deeper bay will still be at the same level as shallow bay. In fact a deeper inlet would allow more water in the bay.

its over

6:27 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

North Carolina is in same boat with the back Bays

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Captain JAck

8:03 pm on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

I HEARD TOMSRIVER WANTS TO CHANGE THE NAME OF ORTLEY BEACH TO THE GARBAGE DUMP THE NEW NAME FITS THE PICTURE I LIVE THERE IT'S ADUMP NOW GO SCREW TOMSRIVER

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bman

6:21 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

The reason the bay water has flooded several times after sandy is because of the increased number of noreasters we have had this winter. Not only were the winds and waves stronger than usual, but several times we had weather patterns similiar to last week where the wind and surf was coming in for a week straight which is not common in NJ. I have been surfing after every storm for the past 30 years, and I can tell you that the flooding would have been the same if it occurred pre Sandy.

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its over

9:55 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013

Bman,we have had way worse ne storms that have stayed for a longer amount of days. my familyI has 1 of the last shacks on sedge in ibsp. I have lived here too long and haven't seen my road flooded like this.i think its not just 1 issue.

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rightwing

10:37 pm on Friday, March 15, 2013

Rick, You're wasting your breath arguing with ignorant people ( Hydraulics 101?, how about 5th grade science class!) It's like debating with supposedly educated people about when life begins (basic science). I wonder how many of these knuckleheads are teaching our kids.

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Rick

2:49 am on Saturday, March 16, 2013

Yeah I know, but since I don't get too winded typing on my computer, I don't think of it as wasting breath.

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Rick

2:59 am on Saturday, March 16, 2013

But you are right. I really do hope they aren't teaching science or geometry.

Or for that matter spelling.

Kathy Higgins

11:15 am on Friday, April 19, 2013

So let me make sure I understand, my house did not get water on the first floor but I am in a V zone. My elevation is 9'6" and I am supposed to raise my house 6" or I will be penalized? Do I have ANY recourse?

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