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Many Residents Welcomed Back To Barrier Island, While Ortley Awaits Word

Towns have allowed the barrier island to be repopulated. Ortley Beach remains an exception.

 

Residents of much of the barrier island were given permission to come back home for good Monday morning following re-population approval from Gov. Chris Christie's office late last week. 

The North Beach area of Toms River, all of Brick Township and single-family homes in Seaside Heights were included in the plans to re-populate on Monday. 

Toms River officials said Ortley Beach is not cmpletely ready for people to move back in. Mayor Tom Kelaher said utilities are simply not available.

Elsewhere, however, what, exactly, people were returning home to following Hurricane Sandy depends on where you go and whom you ask.

Ron Carlucci counts himself among some of the lucky ones. The Lavallette resident said his home received minimal damage in the storm, unlike several of his neighbors who are still in the process of gutting their homes for their own eventual returns.

Though his garage was significantly damaged and his prized '66 Thunderbird wrecked by flood waters, Carlucci said he and his wife were able to move back into a home that's much the same as they left it more than two months ago. 

"I cried when I saw my car," he said. "But were we lucky? Hell yeah."

In many instances, restoration and rebuilding is still taking place, limiting the number of residents who will actually be able to move back into their homes.

In Seaside Park, police are still denying access to anyone who isn't a homeowner or a contractor. Ortley Beach, one of the hardest hit areas on the barrier island hasn't been given the go ahead for re-population just yet.

Bill Petruzel, owner of Barnacle Bill's amusements in Ortley Beach, said he's still waiting to hear from the town about when he can move back into his upstairs apartment. He's heard a week, but it could be more.

In some cases, residents have been given the all clear to move back in to their homes, but significant reconstruction efforts have stalled reentry.

Stephen Bache came back to New Jersey from California to help clear out his 86-year-old mother's Lavallette home. She'd been living alone for the past seven years, he said, and he's not sure if she'll ever be able to come back.

Much of the first floor of her home needs to be torn out, and he's not sure what will happen with the property when the family makes a final assessment.

About this column: News and essential information about Hurricane Sandy in New Jersey. Related Topics: Barrier Island Repopulation, Hurricane Sandy, and Hurricane Sandy Restoration

Chief Wahoo

2:54 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

why are property taxes TRIPLED for living near the water......looks to me, they should be lowered by 70% for living by the water......good luck selling those water logged boxes now for anywhere near those over assesed bubblelicious prices.....PONZI, BOOM, CRASH, POP

oh yeah, dont forget to pay the Feb.1 property tax.....

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I have spoken

3:05 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Because these homes were horribly under assessed. It's about time the tax assessor's office fixed that wrong.

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Michael Capo

4:46 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

You are so right. Everyone knows that a 40x 60 lot with a two bedroom one bathroom cottage should be assessed at $2,000,000 and the yearly property tax should be $24,000. Its only fair.

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I have spoken

4:55 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

@Michael Capo

You can exagerate all you want. I do appraisals on the side and I've seen first hand how that $40K bungaloo (not appraised for 20 years) should be at $400K and the owners wants to sell it for $425K. Can't have your cake and eat it too. It's about time the barrier island paid it's fair share.

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Chief Wahoo

5:11 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

i have spoken,
i call BS on that...........just because you may be able to get $400,000 , which i dont believe you can, especially AFTER Sandy, that does NOT mean the ASSESSED value should be at 100% !!!!!!.....if that is the case , how come a house that is sold for $200,000 or bought at foreclosure at $100,000 does not get re-assesed at those prices.....this also doesnt begin to go into the fact, that MOST of the houses are only used for 3 months a year and/or why if it costs the town $200 per house to pick up garbage during the year, why a million dollar house pays $900 for garbage (thru property tax bill) and a small ranch on the main land pays $90 FOR A FIXED PRICE SERVICE

Michael Capo

4:11 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Plan for Ortley Repopulation

1. Restore utilities and grant access full time
2. Rebuild Ortley
3. Secede from Toms River

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Kimbo Sliceopizza

7:42 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

I concur. Everyone in Toms River should be ashamed.

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butch cassidy

1:02 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

really toms river should be ashamed of themselves..from ritacco his hirees the stupid bubble and caring less about the ratables and so on..o and congrats chief mastro for being the new sheriff and roselli the super of schools

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Puffer Fish

3:15 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

This is by far the best post I have ever seen.

Michael reina

4:23 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

I went to seaside to grab a cheese steak at the "original" on friday and then as i turned the corner onto 35 and headed to my home on coolidge ave in ortley i started getting sick to my stomach.....trust me it was NOT the food i was sickined by the condition that ortley is still in.....by the time i went to 6th ave due to all rds still being blocked and dodged all the debris and nails etc and crossed over 35 where i was greeted by a great state trooper who couldnt be more compassionate still after 2 months.....when i reached my street i had to open my car door to get air or i was gonna loose my lunch....then to wake up to hear seaside is reopen like its begining of summer......the town should really be ashamed of themselevs that on one corner the town that brings in the money is in one condition and on the next still looks like week one.....its just sad

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OBeach

2:33 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

I had the same reaction on New Year's Day. your last sentence says it all.

Candice

4:30 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

ortleys going to become like bayhead, only the rich can afford to live there...I know my family will likely be pushed out because of our mortgages flood insurance requirements...just can't afford an extra 7000 a year...assuming we can afford to raise it the ten feet...plus the insane property taxes for a 40x30 ft lot...now it's down to hoping we can sell the property to at least pay off the mortgage...kinda wish we knew this before we gutted the house

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Av

4:31 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

We need more bars in ortley he'll yeah let's build them now!!!

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Dainty

4:32 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

We have tried getting in touch with the family that owns Barnacle Bills, we as volunteers would love to help them clean up.

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Pat Faia

4:50 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Secede! Secede and then try again! Seems like the hardest hit area should have been the first to have begun clean up and restoration - not the last!

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Gary M

5:01 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

There must be some financial correlation between the new flood plain designations and the land assessments on the barrier island. Such a condition/restriction should cause the land assessment to plummet. I'm sure this is why Toms River is attempting to negotiate the ABFE lower. Why is the MUA still charging fees for water/sewer though we haven't had access to our homes or water/sewer. American water has turn off all water and their are no sewer facilities. Do they think we're stupid! I guess so.

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Michelle Blamble

5:52 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Gary M - water & sewer is one thing. It seems evident that they shouldn't charge Ortley at all for those. I think we should have to pay property taxes for the period from the storm until they let us back in. From my perspective they have effectively stolen my home for this time (not to mention made it more difficult for me to fix what Sandy broke & costing me money by making my house sit for so long without being able to do anything) and aren't entitled to ANY property taxes until they give it back.

Michelle Blamble

5:36 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Question on those FEMA maps. What does it mean when it says
ABFE:A
1% EL 8
0.2% EL12

A couple people here seemed to understand it (I've tried to go through the FEMA tutorial but it just puts me into a rage....why can't they make it simple to understand?)

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coolerhead

6:21 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

An “A” zone (ABFE: A) means that the area is in a flood hazard area but is not subject to wave action. A “coastal A” is subject to moderate wave action, 1.5 to 3 ft waves. You must turn on the moderate wave action button to determine if you are a “coastal A” or a regular “A” zone. A “V” zone is a high hazard area subject to wave action greater than 3 feet.

The 1% El 8 number means that in a 100-year storm the expected water height is 8 feet above sea level.

The .2% El 12 means that in a 500-year flood the water height is expected to reach 12 feet above sea level.

Eventually your flood insurance will reflect the true hazard for your home. A “V“zone is the highest hazard, higher than a “coastal A,” which is higher than regular “A” The higher you are elevated the less the hazard. I have been told that for each foot above the base flood elevation (BFE) you get a 20% reduction in premium for flood insurance.

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Michelle Blamble

6:33 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Coolerhead - Thank you. So this is saying you have to raise the house to 12 feet above sea level if you have damage more than 50% of the building assessed value?

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coolerhead

8:40 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

No. First, the new maps are advisory only. They do not have force of law, yet. The Township can adopt them early or the Township will be forced to adopt them in a few years. Second, you will only be required to be at the 100-year flood elevation, plus an additional two or three feet, not the 500-year flood. At least one to two feet over the 100-year flood will be required; they call that free board. So even if the new elevations are adopted your elevation would need to be at least 8 plus two feet. Your house would probably be at elevation 10 or 11.
The advantage of the Township adopting the elevations now is that more money will be available to finance elevations now. In a few years when the new elevations become mandatory there may not be much money to help people elevate. Then beginning soon after they are mandatory, flood insurance will go up 20% each year until the premium matches the true risk of insurance. I was not flooded and I am not in a flood zone but a member of my family is. I was told that the house is in an A zone. Assuming maximum coverage, the existing house would be four feet below the new BFE. My uncles insurance would be $9,500 a year. If we elevated to BFE plus three the premium would be less than $600 per year. We are waiting to see the cost of elevating.

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TR Voice of Reason

9:55 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Coolerhead you have explained a lot, thank you and I understand why the town adopting these standards now might force more people to do it while $ is available, which will help them in the long run. The problem is that FEMA has designated V zones in areas where some homes only got 6 inches and were never flooded before and then have at least one or two other zone designations on the same street? That really hurts the integrity of their calculations. I think that FEMA has an obligation to revisit this immediately and get it right before any town adopts their standards.

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Candice

10:45 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

what I was told from the insurance company is, well we were paying 700 a year, if we elevate it ten feet it will "only" go up to 7000, if we do not elevate it to that height it will be 30,000, and were in a reg zone a 1% el8 zone...all in all not too much damage from Sandy considering...first flood in the 75 year lifespan of the house...then even with complying with insurance and raising it the rates still x10 plus the 20% raises...if I had the money I'd pay off the mortgage and ditch the flood insurance...and on top of it because of the way the house was built back then to raise it that height it would have to be demolished and built from scratch...I just don't get so much of how their figuring this stuff out

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Mark

12:50 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Does anyone know how TR plans on determining how a homes damage exceeds 50% of the assessed value? Most homes in Ortley have an assessed value (just home, not land) in the area of 60 to 70 K. So a renovation bill of over 30K means mandatory house elevation?

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Candice

5:57 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

I may very well be wrong about this but I'm pretty sure they did that right after the hurricane...I think that's what those colored slips on our doors and windows were...diff colors were different damage levels, I don't know if they'll be doing it again based on money, I think it's just the percentage of your home they estimated to be damaged...as far as I know they're not technically requiring anyone to raise their house...yet...more or less suggestion

Michael Capo

5:56 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

I have spoken.......I respectfully ask you what property on the barrier island (specifically Ortley Beach) has not been assessed in 20 years? You should be able to answer this if you do in fact do appraisals on the side.

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Candice

10:26 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

I'd like to know the same...my home in ortley was just appraised about four years ago ... possibly 5 at the most being I know it was after my son was born...and there's no way I could ever sell the tiny 2 bedroom buffalo from the 40s for the close to 400000 it was appraised at, not before Sandy and definitely not now

Lorraine Gerling

6:17 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

The Mantoloking Bridge opened today. Before I retired every morning I used to go over this bridge on my way to Rt. 35. Then at the top of the bridge you could see all the houses along the beach in Mantoloking...today....all there was, was the beach....all the houses are gone. From there I headed south on Rt. 35 and between seeing houses off of their foundations or just gone....I felt like my breath was taken away. When a friend asked me to describe what I saw, I said, "there are no words"....Please keep all of those people in your prayers. God help them all.

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Mark

9:02 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

Another Scam TR Barrier Island Homeowners Should Be Aware Of:

TheTR Fire District Collects Over 1 million Dollars In Property Taxes From TR Barrier Island HomeOwners. They Then Contract Out (PAY) TheSeaside Hts Fire Dept. About 100K To Provide Fire Protection!

Where Does The Other 900K Go?

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Candice

8:00 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

yeah exactly...I sure know I can't afford that every year...just getting by before all this...but it sure makes figuring out what to do harder

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trgirl

9:15 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

If it's ever habitable again on the islands, will anyone be able to afford living there?

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Condor

10:58 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Wait until we get the new flood insurance premiums.
Boom!

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Candice

12:58 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

noone will be able to afford to live there but no one will be able to sell either, not if you have a mortgage you have to pay off at least...if things keep going in the direction they seem to be ortley beach will be a ghost town

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Michael Capo

1:01 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

The new summer attraction at Seaside Heights this summer will be "Ortley Land" An "E" ticket attraction.

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Michael Capo

1:58 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

EVERYONE NEEDS TO LOOK AT THIS >http://www.tomsrivertownship.com/downloads/FEMA-ABFE-Review-Letter.pdf SEE ATTACHMENT B1 IT IS THE LETTER FROM TOMS RIVER ENGINEER ASKING FEMA TO CHANGE ORTLEY BEACH TO A "V" FLOOD ZONE. THIS IS THE WORST ZONE WHERE NEW DEVELOPMENT AND REBUILDING ARE SEVERELY IMPACTED AS WILL BE INSURANCE AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS. WHAT A GREAT HELP THEY ARE.

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