UPDATE: School Board Ousts Longtime Attorney, Makes New Appointment
Board held a special meeting Tuesday night after failing to make appointment last week
The law firm that represented the Toms River Board of Education for over 20 years was ousted Tuesday night when members voted on a new appointment.
After an executive session that lasted about three and a half hours — about an hour longer than anticipated by the board — the firm of Carluccio, Leone, Dimon, Doyle and Sacks was approved by the board in a 6-2 vote. The board's long-serving representation by Gilmore and Monahan was among those considered, but "Clean Slate" members ultimately made their pick.
Members Tom Baxter and Edward Gearity cast their votes against the year-long appointment. Michael Jedziniak was absent from the meeting and did not vote. Before voting, Gearity said that the firm has a "very prestigious" reputation but does not have recent school board experience.
"Unfortunately they have no experience in the last eight or 10 years as school board attorneys or in special education law," he said.
The board failed to make an appointment during their reorganization meeting last week after some members and residents complained that time set aside for an executive session to interview and consider attorney candidates was removed from the meeting agenda. The attorney appointment, as well as the choices for labor counsel and engineering firm, were tabled until the Tuesday special meeting.
Board president Ben Giovine apologized for keeping the public at the High School North auditorium waiting beyond the expected 8 p.m. public session start time.
"Some of the interviews and discussions went on a little longer than we expected," he said. Gearity indicated that two firms were involved in the interview process.
Giovine also said that he "lost sleep" over the Jan. 3 reorganization meeting during which no attorney was present, but he did not believe the board made any legal missteps. Thomas Monahan did not sit with the board Tuesday, but Giovine said that the attorney advised members that it is standard procedure for a board not to have representation before appointing a new attorney at reorganization.
Linda Garvey, a board member who decided not to seek reelection and left in 2011, spoke during public comment and was critical of what she said was an injection of politics into the school board with the appointment.
"I totally agree with the decision to appoint someone other as Monahan as board attorney," she said. But, "school boards are supposed to be nonpartisan."
According to New Jersey campaign contributions information, members of the firm have made financial contributions to Democratic candidates.
"I have a problem with that for many reasons, not the least of which is that [attorney Stephan Leone is] involved in politics on, shall we say, the other aisle," Garvey said.
Leone's association with Giovine were questioned by Garvey, but Giovine said that he is not close with the attorney.
"My relationship with Mr. Leone has been nothing more than a neighbor," he said.
After winning a majority on the board in November, the "Clean Slate" members had enough votes to oust Monahan, something they tried to accomplish — but fell short of by two votes — when his contract was last up for renewal in 2011. Monahan was among the "Ritacco-era professionals" with which the majority of board members wanted to end ties.
"The last two years they came and voted for new members to be on the board, and part of that is because they didn't trust the professionals," said resident Brian McCaskill.
According to the Carluccio, Leone, Dimon, Doyle and Sacks website, the firm has attorneys "that have served and currently serve on the boards of banks, hospitals, colleges, utility companies and corporations." The firm states that it has received distinguished law firm status from the Martindale Hubbell legal information service.
The board also voted to appoint Cleary, Giacobbe, Alfieri and Jacobs as its labor counsel and Maser Consulting as the district's engineering firm on an as-needed basis. In the past, the board had designated numerous engineering firms for use.
Buffoon wrangler
6:14 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Lots of stammering when the BOE was asked about photos on Facebook of Leone with Loreen Joe and Ben at one of their wine and cheese parties. They aren't even smart enough to keep incriminating photos private
Nancy
9:04 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Whay would anyone be suprised, they went around town for months telling everyone that Leone was the man.
1stcav
8:22 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Leone: Done deal weeks ago, word on the street ( @ Water Street & Office Lounge) was correct ! Whine ( wine ) & Cheese go together..now don't they !
J.D.J.R.
8:29 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Same story different players..Democratic crooks this time
tuna stick
8:46 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Why isn't Lnda Garvey doing prison time along with her cronies? Despicable.
Kathy
9:48 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Perhaps you are unaware..
Buffoon wrangler, nancy, jdjr,and 20 other screen names are the same person..
All from same IP address. Easy to guess who it is... ;)
Buffoon wrangler
10:01 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
JD. Why do you continue to defend the dirty dems with inane comments about things that have nothing to do with facts about the issue at hand?
Laughable
9:36 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
@Kathy - Where are you seeing IP addresses listed?
Project Bluebeam
11:02 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
Kathy is either bluffing on the IP addresses or she's a Soros-paid, Huffington Post plant. Either way, she lacks credibility.
JD
9:21 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Injecting politics into the appointment of the board attorney...
that is laughable...
and the appointment of Gilmore for 20 years was NOT political... Ritacco's personal attorney.
Linda Garvey should be ashamed of herself.
Did she ever vote NO to the Gilmore firm during her time on the board.
JD
9:42 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
I don't know party affiliations of the Clean Slate crew...
but I believe 4 of them are Republicans... Giovine is definitely democrat...
I would have to say... that is non-partisan if all 6 voted for a democratic law firm.
Buffoon wrangler
9:44 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
JD your ability to twist and turn is better than an Olympic gymnast ! This group is BLATENLY POLITICAL then act shocked when people call them out on it.
JD
10:00 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Just calling out Linda Garvey based upon her comments.
1. The 6 members of Clean Slate are NOT from the same side of the aisle... so it is non-partisan. For her to say "other side of the aisle"... is laughable.
2. Did she ever vote no to the Gilmore firm in her years on the Board? NO. Was that political? Yes.
3. Did she ever vote no to anything Ritacco proposed? She was a rubber stamper.
Now she is up there calling the kettle black... she lack credibility.
During the 2009 election, Vasil/Malik/Garvey raised nearly $30,000... who gave them the money?? We are to believe no group over $300...
The board attorney appointment is minor... it's the labor attorney who is going to have all the action.
TRWatch
10:05 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Linda Garvey should be banned from all Toms River School Board meetings.
Buffoon wrangler
10:52 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
I'm not a fan of Garvey but she has a valid point that you are once again diverting attention from JD. This group ran on the "end the Ritacco era" platform and a number of things have already come to light. Jobs were promised long before the election ...Leone. Back room dealings...Joe Torrone. A former TRRS teacher e lected, who according to YOU JD MUST have been a 3.0 student, who had no resume, and was CONNECTED TO RITACCO...Rhine. YOUR WORDS ARI'm not a fan of Garvey but she has a valid point that you are once again diverting attention from JD. This group ran on the "end the Ritacco era" platform and a number of things have already come to light. Jobs were promised long before the election ...Leone. Back room dealings...Joe Torrone. A former TRRS teacher e lected, who according to YOU JD MUST have been a 3.0 student, who had no resume, and was CONNECTED TO RITACCO! YOUR WORDS ARE COMMING BACK TO HAUNT YOU JD!
JD
10:56 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Your rambling Buffoon... you don't make any sense.
Spock's Brain
2:30 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Seems the Buffoon is just making things up and slandering people. A friend of mine that graduated with Ginny Rhine at South said that she had one of the highest GPAs in her class. She thought Ginny graduated 3rd or 4th in the entire school... definitely in the top 10. This type of slander to put people down is truly pathetic. You must be a very sad person.
JD
2:49 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Spock..
She graduated Summa Cum Laude from Drew. Impressive.
But it's typical of the Ritacco crew to slander, harass and intimidate those so they don't attend meetings or run for BOE...
I think you can figure out who Buffoon is.
Buffoon wrangler
4:13 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Spock...aka JD....Read what I wrote...I said "according to you JD ...." I'm just using the theory that has been shouted from the rooftops by the famous JD for months. NOT MY WORDS those belong to YOU JD! But I guess there are double standards now that your pay check has win their seats.
tuna stick
11:33 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
The only reason I can think of for someone to still support any member of the old board would be that they were on the take as well. So if you want to support them, be my guest. But the hole's just getting deeper.
barbara
2:47 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
for sure tuna stick, they all knew what was going on i am sure. it's called cover up.
Buffoon wrangler
11:34 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Sorry I had Rhine for AP computer science. You get the point JD
Buffoon wrangler
11:39 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
To restate ...I'm not a fan of I'm not a fan of Garvey but she has a valid point This group ran on the "end the Ritacco era" platform and a number of things have already come to light. Jobs were promised long before the election ...Leone. Back room dealings...Joe Torrone. A former TRRS teacher e lected, who according to YOU JD MUST have been a 3.0 student, who had no resume, and was CONNECTED TO RITACCO...Rhine. YOUR WORDS ARE coming back to haunt you JD
JD
11:52 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Buffoon.... get a life..
The election is over... your slate of candidates lost.
When it comes down to new hires coming up... get up and ask about their resumes and transcripts.
That will be my question every time... do they have at least a 3.0 gpa, are that CEAS (Certified with Advanced Standing), (no alternate route), etc.
Ginny Rhine graduated summa cum laude... that is above 3.75 and attended Drew on full academic scholarship. TRRS would be in better shape if they hired teachers with that resume and transcript.
Buffoon wrangler
1:28 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Lol. JD I do believe you are the obsessed one ! You & others asked for transparency, quality teachers etc... but defend those in power now who are blatenly opposed to or have violated in some way those things. You have to comPlain no matter what & it appears to be your job. Do they pay you well?
JD
1:39 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Buffoon.... I will be the first one up there questioning the hirings of teachers and promotions. You are fully aware of that.
I'm sure you read me throwing Giovine under the bus due to his voting record. And I will do the same with the others.... trust me on that one.
Lets see what they vote on next meeting. I'm curious when the personnel committee will be up and running.
Chasing your tail
1:43 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Anything for a buck right JD?
CheerMom1
12:27 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
It never ceases to amaze me that we still keep getting lawyers and others who are connected to everyone else. So, those connected to the school board are connected to those on the OCC board, connected to . . . and on it goes.
CCGG
1:48 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Christie was correct, how can we expect our kids to become normal adults when the people responsible for their education are a bunch of thugs and closet case gangsters.
Farfernugin
1:52 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Well at last Haelig got the BOE under his control. Watch out Ward elections this coming year, now that he has the BOE , next will be control of the local municipal election.
Chasing your tail
2:05 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Hey Giovine...watch out for JD....you know him right? He proposed to have your BOE nominees backs but has turned quickly. Read his posts!
JD
2:17 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Perhaps you are not aware... I called him out at August meeting and October meeting.
He got defensive at August meeting to explain his vote (BS)... and they knew I was coming at the October meeting based upon their summer hires... but Giovine still voted Yes to the hires without seeing the resume and transcript.
Wait until spring when some people are up for tenure!!
Robert Bressman
3:09 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
@buffoon wrangler, I don't know where you have been for the last 20 years, but what do you think the past board has been doing? Garvey's husband works for the town, Vasil, works for the Freeholders, her husband had a job with town, got fired and then got a nice payout for being fired. The rest, have relatives and friends working in the school system. Just how do you think this happened? Judge Pisano estimated Ritacco and friends took 25 million from the district, should we be thanking Gilmore and Monahan and the BOE for protecting the taxpayers. Leone's practice can't do any worse than Gilmore. The sad fact about running for the BOE you can't keep either political party out because, they want to have the school budget in their pocket, that's how they make their money and influence people.
Jamie
4:58 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
So that s how the BOE makes their money. Exactly how much do they make per year?
Linda Garvey
4:47 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Get your facts straight, Mr. Bressman. My husband does not and has never worked for the town. He has his own law firm in TR and does work for insurance companies. He gets hired because he is a good and honest attorney not because of any political affiliations. Where have YOU been for the last 20 years. Please stop spreading lies!
Kathy
6:36 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Isn't Mayor Kellaher a partner of Garvey??
It says so on Mayor Kellaher bio on Toms River website.
So, does the Garvey firm get the insurance defense work from the Toms River Township? Yes. That is not a political connection? I think it is.
Just theFacts
7:14 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
With all due respect Ms. Garvey you voted for Monahan time after time and you never criticized the fact that his law partner was the GOP county chairman. Unfortunately you really don't have any credibility, You repeatedly voted to hire Gartland as Insurance broker, Shea Vicari Firm, Cowen Auditor, Pravin Patel, and on and on, didn't you vote to promote someone to Asst. Superintendent who was without credentials who was demoted when outed. You were dead silent when Ritacco wanted to buy Albocondo for 4 million more than it was worth, now you are the reformer with a voice. You and the rest should be sued personally for failure to protect our childrens money.
JD
7:24 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Just the Facts..
It's called Breach of Fiduciary Duty. She knows what it is.
I'm sure TRRS has insurance covering the board... Typically called D&O insurance.
We R TR
7:46 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Mr Garvey is not part of the problem. Look at this quote from Ben Giovine ine the Patch on April 20. 2011
4. What issues do you hope to address?
My slate, which includes Alex Paviliv and Loreen Torrone, pledge to take politics out of our school. We want to see new hires and promotions based on ability instead ofpolitical favors. We will put the interest of the taxpayers and kids above the interests of the politically-connected. We promise that Ritacco’s team of lawyers, accountants and “consultants” will not be reappointed. Our school district can do better in terms of disclosure and affordability, and I intend to do both.
Really, and your first appointment is your and the democrats biggest contributor Steve Leone.
So much for your pledge to take politics out of our school!!!
JD
7:57 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
We r TR..
Yep... I quoted that sort of at the August meeting and called Giovine on the carpet for rubber stamping new hires... teachers that is.
Giovine votes do not coincide with his rhetoric... that I agree with you on..
Pavliv and L.Torrone have been consistent with campaign rhetoric.
Giovine voted along with the Ritacco 6...
and who nominated Giovine for President of BOE... none other than Ritacco.. I mean Jedziniak.
Buffoon wrangler
8:20 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Ok JD it's extremely clear now...you just like controversy! I could go back over the past year at the very least and find post after post where you contradict yourself. I guess once a pot stirrer always a pot stirrer. I remember you from our high school days, it was the same back then!
JD
8:29 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Buffoon... I mean Linda..
I'm consistent.... Education, accountability, hiring practices, school ranking, etc..
and yes.. you can go listen to the audio of August and October.
Donald Fagen
4:39 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013
Breach of Fid. Duty? Breach of Municpal Ethics Code(if that exists). Fid. Duty Breach is an ABA violation in this situation; not a public official's violation. Get a stricter Ethical Code for public officials, and solve your problems. Ask the Finance Board.
bths06
5:22 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Can it be know for those that do not know both Leone and Monahan serve on the Board of Trustees at OCC...Business as usual in Ocean County.
letsgetreal
5:27 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Has anyone on here who is complaining even tried to make a difference in this town other than complaining? Just wondering? Man so much energy about all the problems in Toms River and none of it is directed in actually solving anything. Always have a solution for the problem at hand before you complain. Also some of you can run for office or the board to try to make a change but then you may get some of the criticism that your spewing on here! Slippery slope. And no I have no relationship with any of them however the ranting and raving on here is insane LOL
barbara
5:41 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Good. How long till we hear Gilmore and Monahan sharing cell with Mike?
Spock's Brain
6:07 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
All of this criticism of the new board is so pathetic. These baord members volunteer their time. They do not get paid. They campaigned to get rid of the Ritacco Cronies and appointees, which they seem to be doing. According to the Ocean County Board of Elections Data, the Clean Slate team has 2 Democrats, 2 Republicans and 2 Independents. They appointed 2 law firms last night. Leone's firm is Democrat. The Labor Attorney's firm is Republican (according to their website, Republican Assemblyman Sean Kean works for them). Time will tell as to whether they will keep doing the right thing. Most of the commenters here just seem to be making things up and spewing filth with NO FACTS. Get a life.
Kathy
6:28 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Spock...
Are you not aware.... it is 1 person with 20 screen names posting!!!
It mostly traces back to 1 IP address.
The reason for 20 screen names is to make you believe lots of people...
Well, if you scroll up, you will find out who it is.
Stan Buchwald
6:34 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Letsgetreal is exactly correct in his statement. While there are some posters that care enough to attend BOE meetings and question their dealings. It seems others are just happy enough to sit on their butts in front of the computer a spew lies. All behind a false identity. I for one hope the new BOE can get it together and get TR Schools back to where it once was. I hope they can get the school BE to work out a plan with the schools and various sports teams and clubs to make the Pine Belt Arena,and the Bubble's concession stands to become profitable as they should,not what they've been in the past. When we think about how much money was funneled away from the students and the schools in general it's sickening . Let's all just give the new BOE some time and see what they do.
letsgetreal
7:22 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Thank you Stan...
Robert Bressman
7:17 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
@Linda Garvey, 13 of those 20 years I've been trying to get you and the rest of the BOE out of office, I knew there was bad things going on all those years but never to this extent. You and the rest did what i couldn't do, you let the kids down and the taxpayers. As far as your husband goes, I don't think I said he he was honest or dishonest attorney, or whether he was a good attorney or a bad one, I don't even know your husband. I just said he worked for the town. Does working for the town somehow make a person dishonest or bad? Just asking?
Robert Bressman
7:20 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
@ jamie, It's the professionals who make the money, not the BOE, they got the benefit of getting their friends and family in positions within the town and school district. I'm sure you knew that, right?
letsgetreal
7:26 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Again...what is it with all this bitchin! ? If you or anyone knew of inappropriate dealings of the board or anyone in public office for that matter then your just as guilty for not reporting it when you knew. With that said enough of the complaining and lets just see what happens going forward. If things change for the better than great if not...well then you have a right to complain but offer a solution not only a complaint. Be a part of the solution and not part of the problem. Just sayin!
amy
8:24 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
I am dizzy with all these comments...Who is new board attorney..only name repeated is Linda Garvey.is she new attorney...signed not political..not connected..tax payer in ocean county..wow..you guys here have wrath....who is new firm??
John Derigo
8:45 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
who cares
Linda Garvey
9:06 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
No, KATHY, Mayor Kelaher and my husband are not partners. If the mayor is a friend of yours, you might want to remind him to update his bio. And, no, KATHY, my husband has never done insurance defense work for Toms River Township. I now see why most people on this site are too cowardly to put their full or real names on their posts. It allows them to say things that are not true without any consequences. Feel free to speak to me face to face, KATHY. My husband and I are not involved in local politics.
Kathy
9:26 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Linda...
Kelaher WAS a partner with Garvey and Bellu... maybe not today...
but he was partners with them before he became prosecutor and after being OC prosecutor.
Yes... the law firm which Garvey and Bellu were partners does do insurance defense work for the township..
Just the facts.
I see how you chose your words carefully. Your husband may not have done the defense work but the law firm which he is a partner of did!!! Your husband is not currently partners but never said he wasn't at sometime.
See kettle... black...
And the Garvey lawfirm donated to Kelaher re-election.
Linda Garvey
10:16 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Wow, Kathy, you really are confused. By the way, what's your last name? Not fair that you know who I am. Or is your name not even Kathy? It's Robert Ballou that is my husband's partner, not Juan Bellu. Garvey, Ballou and Rogalski does not do work for Toms River Township and certainly did NOT donate to Kelaher's re-election campaign. Why in the world would they do that after they split from him? If you have proof otherwise, please come forward and show it to us. Kelaher's new law firm is Kelaher, Van Dyke and Moriarity. You might want to check with them about the insurance defense work for the township. My husband doesn't know anything about that and is getting rather irritated that you keep posting that. But, as I said, it's so easy to lie anonymously, isn't it?
Kathy
4:21 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Spelling error Linda.
And yes, Kelaher was a partner with your husband as I described above. I was unaware the firm split recently. Also, you never denied your husband was never a partner of Kelaher as I described above.
Yes, when I have time, I will provide you the dates of the filings of donations made to Kelaher election by the firm Garvey, Kelaher, Ballou. You can see it online.
And yes, when Kelaher was at the firm, the firm did insurance defense work Toms River... could be the town or any of their departments... fire, police, etc. If I have time, I'm sure I can find something to link to.
Please with the threats by your husband, facts are facts. You may not like that you are being called out by the facts.
Toms River is thankful you are no longer on the BOE.
See kettle. Black!!
joe jones
6:54 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Talk talk talk Just remebr this board was elected and now they can do anything they want . Right Joey.
joe jones
6:57 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
By the way JD. You are such a hippocrite. If this was done by the formwe board youu wold be up in arms. Is this how you exist on the handouts of these people to try and defend them. And your distaste for teachers. I wonder if you would be willilng to lay down your life for students. Probably not because you area a coward.
letsgetreal
7:31 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
I have to say the only one on here that has any courage is Mrs. Garvey. Though I don't know her personally at least she puts her real name on here and is not afraid to take on some of the poor taste in attacks. Subsequently, for those who are complaining here what exactly have you done for your community. I know that my children have benefited greatly from TRBA (Toms River Basketball Association) which If I am not mistaken (hope I have this correct) Mr. Garvey donates a great deal of time and money to so that this program survives in our community. If some of you would spend just half of your time doing something for your community (and to those of your complainers that do well than "Thank You" though I doubt it) maybe just maybe something positive may come of it rather than all this bitching about what was and what did happen. TIME TO MOVE FORWARD PEOPLE! The faces are changing and be patient and see what happens. Just sayin...
Linda Garvey
7:45 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Yes, "KATHY," I'm sure the firm of Kelaher, Garvey, Ballou and Van Dyke donated to Kelaher's FIRST campaign, but you said RE-election campaign in your first post, and I can assure you that the firm of Garvey, Ballou and Rogalski did not donate to that. The split was not recent. It's been almost 2 years. And, I certainly hope that any firm that Kelaher was associated with was not doing work for the town while he was Mayor. That would be a huge conflict. I am certainly looking forward to you having the time to provide me with your facts. Will you be providing me with your name at the same time? If not, nothing you say is even credible.
Robert Bressman
7:47 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
@letsgetreal, There are two SCI reports from the state investigations, one in 1997 and another one done in I believe 2000 or 2001, the information was out there, along with years writing to the press and debating the BOE members when I ran for the BOE, I can remember going to lake Ridge, they were all a buzz about what I said, but in the end they voted for the incumbents. I knew they were bad and plenty of teachers knew they were bad, but if you wanted to keep your job you shut your mouth, that's the way is was. Not even those SCI reports that I laid out there could sway voters, in the end Ritacco took $25 million from the taxpayers, that's the price the taxpayers and kids paid because people were silent. So if people are bitchin' as you put it that can't be a bad thing, prior to Ritacco getting caught nobody said anything. just sayin'
Laughable
8:26 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Is no one else concerned that Kathy has repeatedly claimed (in her 9+ comments on school board articles) that she is tracing user's IP addresses? Unless they have been publicly posted, I am not sure you should admit you have hacked into user's accounts. Unless of course you made that up. You need a life (and to brush up on your computer skills.)
Linda Garvey
8:44 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Aha, ??KATHY?? Now I know what you're talking about. Peter Van Dyke was the attorney for the Fire Commissioners in TR. That is an autonomous organization. It is not the township. I would have no idea if he still is. He hasn't been associated with my husband for almost 2 years. You seem to be a person who is on the "fringe" and not really in the "know". No wonder you refuse to say who you are.
Exit82
9:11 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Ms. Garvey, Can you give an honest estimate as to how much money Michael Ritacco was able to steal from the Toms River Schools while you were a member of the school board?
Linda Garvey
9:35 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Sure, ?? EXIT82??, as soon as you give me an honest answer as to what your REAL name is.
barbara
10:34 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
good question, wonder how much went into her pocket? hmmm
barbara
2:45 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
good question.......i did not mean to start a war on here, however, Ritacco stole from us all taxpayer and glad he got caught. Bein a board member, you know what is going on.....enough said
Robert Bressman
9:49 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
@ Linda Garvey, be prepared to have people using fake names to talk about you, or say negative things about you, as you well know I've been dealing with this for the 13 years since I ran against your BOE and Ritacco.
Linda Garvey
12:12 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Wow, Barbara or whoever you are, you have just accused me of a crime. Your comment is called libel per se. If you weren't such a coward, and I knew your identity, I could file a lawsuit. You might want to consult an attorney.
Kathy
12:43 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Typical Ritacco response Linda.
But you were taught by the master.
Intimidate, harrass, threaten, etc.
What Barbara wrote is not libel or libel perse or defamation. If you filed a complaint, the burden is on YOU to not only show what Barbara said was false, but that Barbara knew it was false. That is a heavy burden for you to show.
Your main witness would be Ritacco, if it survive dismissal, which it wouldn't. First question would be, did any friends or family get jobs at TRRS during your time on the BOE.
And if you file a complaint, please tell us so that we and probably the Patch can follow the proceedings.
barbara
2:52 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
thank you kathy. freedom of speech and just expressing my opinion. is that a crime?
Laughable
3:05 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Give Kathy a minute she has to log out as Barbara.
Kathy
7:29 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Barbara,
Expressing your opinion is not a crime... and it's not libel, etc.
For instance, it is my opinion that Linda Garvey is a miserable person who needs to get a life. It appears she is a sick person so she can't help it. That statement is not defamatory, nor is it libel, nor is it libel perse.
I go on.
Keep expressing your opinion. Go to BOE meetings. Drown out the Ritacco crew. Toms River needs to rise above the trash of the Ritacco crew.
It is there tactics to intimidate, scare you, threaten you, etc... stay jersey strong.
Laughable
1:02 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
There is also such thing as Innocent until proven guilty. If any board member, school administrator, or school employee were guilty of a crime, why haven't they been prosecuted? And no, don't say it's only the beginning because it's been nearly 3 years, with plenty of time to indict and sentence the guilty. Today's society ignores innocent until proven guilty and invokes innocent until anonymous bloggers and patch.com commenters say so. Let me know if you need my IP address Kath!
Kathy
1:11 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
I think Judge Pisano spoke to that directly during sentencing of Ritacco.
Don't know what could be proved in a criminal proceeding, it is a higher standard.
but in a civil proceeding, Judge Pisano statements would be Exhibit A for breach of fiduciary duty. A reasonable Jury would conclude that the BOE breached their fiduciary duties.
Laughable
1:45 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
I think a reasonable jury would have to take into consideration the defined responsibilities of BOE members, administrators, the board attorney and school district accountants. I for one was not there (and unless of course you were) how do we know what was discussed in executive session? Are there transcripts/tapes? If the Board of Education holds so much power, perhaps it is time to consider whether this should be a volunteer and voted on position. If job descriptions for administrators often require 10+ years of experience, advanced degrees, etc, why shouldn’t BOE members apply for their positions in the same fashion if they hold the same amount of accountability?
Kathy
1:59 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Laughable,
You obviously don't know what breach of fiduciary duty is or what the duties of a board member is. In summary, they are responsible for what they vote on. Would others have exposure for breach of duty of care (ie. auditor), absolutely.
But I will agree with you, BOE members should be paid. It should not be a volunteer postion. What I find crazy is people raise $30-40,000 to run for BOE which is a non-paying position. What's in it for them or the people that donated money.
Now you get the picture.
Laughable
2:41 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Thank you for the legal lesson, I am feeling quite enlightened. And no I do not have a formal copy of what the responsibilities of a TRRS School Board Member "are" (not "is" - in case I can offer you a free grammar lesson in exchange.) Although, I am hoping it takes more than 7 words to summarize. Just as you question what's in it for the BOE members, what's in this for YOU?! You have posted 15+ comments on school board articles, majority of them claiming to have the IP addresses of users. As the legal connoisseur that you are, I am not sure if that follows the patch.com guidelines when you signed up? If you have so much to say, give the keyboard a rest and pick up the MIC at the next meeting. Sounds like you have a personal vendetta, if you'd care to fill us all in. Get the picture?
Linda Garvey
2:15 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Not sure where you got your law degree, KATHY, or whoever you are, but the burden of proof would be on Barbara to prove her statement with facts. Would love to chat face to face. Please let me know how I can get in touch. I don't normally post on sites such as these. However, I find it to be a crime that people are allowed to ANONYMOUSLY say things that are not true and don't have to back up their statements with facts.
Kathy
2:26 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Sorry Linda... ask hubby.
burden of proof is on the plaintiff if you are filing a civil complaint for libel.
Go file it if you have the guts to. File it under Jane Doe. Then subpoena the Patch for information.
Or, you can stfu and stop intimidating or threatening people. But that is your MO.
Can I ask, did Kelaher want to split from your hubby firm because of you being linked to Ritacco because you were on the BOE? Just askin.
Kathy
2:28 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Chicken Garvey...
I beg of you to file the civil complaint if you have the guts to. That would open up an entire can of worms. In fact, I may just intervene in the case. Ask hubby what that means.
Laughable
2:51 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Kathy - Are you not doing the same thing and hiding behind anonymity - You still haven't responded to my questions about you tracking user's IP addresses. Kettle.. black. I feel a little left out that you are flying off the handle for Linda and won't respond to my question. Take a chill pill before you fire off your next response as you are sounding quite crazy.
Linda Garvey
2:58 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
I repeat, Kathy, who are you?
TRWatch
3:13 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
This exchange is hilarious. L.G. threatening to sue for libel is freaking priceless.
Linda Garvey
3:32 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
And, who are you, TRWatch? Would be happy to chat face to face.
Kathy
3:39 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Hey, TRWatch...
You can now file criminal charges against Linda Garvey....
That sounds like a threat to do harm.
Linda Garvey
3:18 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Interesting info on the Ocean County Police Blotter Facebook page today about the campaign finances of the Clean Slate Candidates. It seems that Giovine, Torrone (Mrs.) and Pavliv were well acquainted with the political operative who has run the campaigns of many Ocean County Deomcrats, Clear Edge Consulting - President, Mitch Seim. They paid him almost $5,000 or 20% of the money they took in. The info comes from the website for campaign finances. Nothing yet on the 2012 Clean Slate candidates. Can't wait to see.
Kathy
3:41 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Hey Linda,
Do you have any family members working for TRRS? Daughter? any others?
How is it that in the 2009 campaign you raised over $30,000 and nobody over $300?
Linda Garvey
5:03 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
My goodness, KATHY, I thought that stfu was a typo. My son had to explain it to me. Not very ladylike of you, or are you really a guy? Pretty tricky of you. None of my lady friends speak like that. And, no, I don't have any family members working for TRRS. My daughter doesn't live in NJ. That would be a really long commute. And, what threat are you talking about?!! I would simply like to know to whom I'm speaking. Don't you think that is a reasonable request or are you not a reasonable person? I'll be at the BOE meeting next Tuesday. Feel free to say "hi". I'm really a very nce person.
Linda Garvey
5:20 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Oh, and, by the way, KATHY, I didn't run in 2009. That would have been Kakavas, Reuther and Jubert.
Here since 66
5:34 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Wow what is the deal with you two old biddies on here, what is this your own personal biatch no life chat room? I WOULD like to know how much Leones law firm gave to the clean slate team considering that the entire universe knew he was going to get appointed.
Kathy
5:41 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Sorry... 2008 but dispursements made in 2009.
Tell me... how did $28,385 get deposited into your campaign fund all in 1 day in May of 2009. Was it cash? Check? Will you disclose.
You gave $900 to Kakavas and Ruether for 2009...
$30,000 to JJ Moriarty (any relationship to Moriarty who works at TRRS)
Someone said you were asking Clean Slate to disclose deposits. Will you??
I mean, $28,385 in 1 day is huge!!!
Just askin.
Callingyouout
6:49 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Kathy Lazaro? Took me a minute but it has to be you, Mr. Torrone or Pavliv. Interesting archive article on patch.com:
"Seaside Park resident Mitch Seim remarked that he had never seen any type of board vote on a budget when not all of the members were privy to its complete details, an action he called 'placing blind faith in the administration.' Roselli pressed Seim on whether his occupation is the running of political campaigns, which Simon admitted was the case.." Mitch must have been gearing up for big campaign. "Clean Slate" needs to take the garbage out because something stinks! Same old nonsense.
Kathy
7:13 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Are you going to answer the question above and/or disclose Linda??
Kathy
7:13 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Yea so what?
Kathy
7:21 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Now that is funny Linda...
You are using my screen name... Kathy. lol
Same IP address as other screen names.
You are a sick person... Thank god you are off the board.
Kathy
7:14 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Seriously, where did $28,000 come from in 1 day!!!
Kathy
7:40 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
It came from outer space the third continuim off Aurora Borialus near Neptune that hovers the planet Uranus!
Callingyouout
7:17 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Probably not from Leone or Mitch, Ms. Lazaro.
Kathy
7:17 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Can someone tell me why the entire office lounge knew Mr Leone was getting the job months ago?
Callingyouout
7:20 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Well being my comment has already been flagged, here it is one more time: Hopefully all other users will join me in a simple Google Search. Berkley mayor Jason Varano's election campaign was ALSO supported by Mitch Seim, with donations accepted by the same site the "Clean Slate" team used. 14 months ago, let's take a wild guess as to who donated to this campaign? Oh my, it's non other than new board of education attorney LEONE. http://giving.piryx.com/streams/The-Varano-Team-for-Berkeley/S5Ig7hBm
Kathy
7:22 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Well, I knew it wasn't going to be Mr. Garvey.
Kelaher didn't want to be partners with Garvey due to wifey involvement with Ritacco.
Kathy
7:24 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
I told youse Leone was going to the next board attorney.....
Kathy
7:24 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Sounds like I'm getting to you Linda. Give it up. Let it rest. Your friends lost the election. Get over it.
Just the facts on your campaign. $30,000 paid to Moriarity??
Callingyouout
7:27 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Actually I am NOT Linda- since you are the computer expert, why don't you compare the IP addresses? You get a life - you started on here supporting the Clean Slate team, which is why I simply pointed out to you they are up to the same shenanigans.
Kathy
7:32 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Linda,
Please tell us where $28,000 came from in 1 day. A bank check deposited, meaning it came from another bank account so the deposits of checks and cash couldn't be traced.
$30,000 to Moriarity. Did you vote for Moriarity to get a job at TRRS?
Come forward with the info.
Kettle. Black.
Linda Garvey
7:36 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
I have no idea what you are talking about, Kathy. I wouldn't have any idea how to use your screen name, and I don't even know what an IP address is. Are you Kathy Lazaro? I had no idea. Although, she is the only person I know who says "youse" instead of "you" (see above post). I truly believed that KATHY was a guy. I don't know any ladies who would put "stfu" in a public post like KATHY did earlier. SURE I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT MY CAMPAIGN FINANCES WHEN YOU TELL ME WHO YOU ARE!!!
Clark Kent
7:28 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
We think this Kathy is either bi-polar or has a multiple personality disorder, wow.
Callingyouout
7:31 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Thank you!!! But watch what you say since she is tracking your IP address. :)
Kathy
7:34 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Hey Linda Garvey...
Another first post!!
What is that now, 25 screen names.
Kathy
7:32 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Sounds like I'm getting to you myself. Give it up. Let it rest. My friends lost the election. Get over it.
Just the facts on your campaign. $30,000 paid to ??
Kathy
7:35 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Yes Linda,
Your buddies lost the election.
How bout answering some questions.
The original Kathy. Never to be duplicated.
Callingyouout
7:43 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Do you need another minute to track my IP Address. I wish I was Garvey I don't have anyone this obsessed with me. You sounded so intelligent in your previous comments and I had hope for you, but now sound like a scorned, obsessed woman (or man, who knows.) The issue I was trying to point out to you had NOTHING to do with Garvey, but was an issue about the current attorney and his connections with the campaign manager. Do you remember that this was the original purpose of the article?
Linda Garvey
7:46 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
I think we can all see that KATHY (the original one or otherwise) is crazy! On my way to the BOE committee meetings. They are open to the public. Talk to ya later, KATHY!
Kathy
7:49 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Linda,
In my opinion, you are a sick and deranged person. I believe you need the help of a psychologist.
btw, I see how you are avoiding the question, but the answer is obvious.
The original Kathy.
chtulu2000
7:49 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Wow! You people are freakin' nuts!
Callingyouout
8:00 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Yes, that was a fun ride on the crazy train. Commenting on articles is comical, I can see why it's done so often now.
JD
9:32 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Wow. Crazy people.
Sounds like Linda Garvey is going to run for Baxters seat in November.
Exit82
10:59 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Not for nothing:
The letter says Garvey made “ridiculous” comments that were “disparaging” to reputations of some administrators and board members.
“While you cannot control a Barnegat staff member, you can
certainly do something about a Toms River Board of Education member,” the letter advises. “Her public display was horrifying. … She exhibited such a lack of control that myself and many other parents are worried that she will not be able to control herself with the children either.”
The writer says she omitted her name out of concern for her daughter entering fifth grade.
Kathy
7:37 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
What letter?
It is my opinion, Linda Garvey is a bitter, angry, mentally ill person and needs to seek the attention of psychologists instead of seeking attention at BOE or committee meetings.
I am trying to confirm why Kelaher spun off from her husbands law firm. I suspect it may be due to her instability as well as her relationship with Ritacco and being on the BOE and Kelaher wanted to distance himself from it.
Kathy
8:01 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
Ok... I googled.
I never knew about Barnegat. Here is some reading about what Exit 82 is referring to.
http://www.nje3.org/?p=616
http://barnegatschools.com/1430101124145325593/lib/1430101124145325593/4-23-07_Regular.pdf
What is especially newsworthy is what she said at the Barnegat BOE meeting. It starts on page 5. Looks like her union didn't back her!
Callingyouout
8:35 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
Now I can see why the voices of Galante or Carol Benson with legitimate concerns have been lost over the years - when you associate with someone like Lazaro who just likes to see her name in the paper (again – Google Search. She has been quoted in countless number of APP articles, Patch.com articles) you lose your credibility. Run for the BOE Kathy if you want to make a difference instead of posting 30+ comments a day on Toms River Patch. Although, I may propose BOE membership require a mental health screening so you and 90% of the other people posting on this page may be out. Well I must get to work now – I am assuming you don’t work with all the time you spend calling the Patch & APP. I had hoped TR could bounce back but my faith is fading. Christie should abolish BOE's or significantly change the requirements.
Kathy
8:53 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
Which elementary school are you substituting at today Linda?
Callingyouout
9:04 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
I thought you were tracking my IP address, so you should be therefore able to see that I am not Linda? I work a full time job actually, and look forward to my hard earned tax dollars supporting your unemployment.
barbara
8:31 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
lol, should not comment, cause i was the first one she was gonna sue. but hopefully she not subbing at my granddaughters school.........
barbara
8:50 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
10 -20 points for kathy!!! lol you go girl........