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Christie: State Is On the Upswing

Governor's town hall message emphasizes reforms to spending, taxation, education and pensions

New Jersey is beginning to turn a corner.

Gov. Chris Christie opened his 19th town hall of 2011 in Toms River today with a half-hour speech that began with that sentiment, as he outlined a familiar "reform agenda" that emphasized the steps he felt were necessary to repair an underfunded pension system, troubled education results and taxpayers' property tax burden.

"New Jersey is beginning to turn a corner. I can feel it, hope you can feel it too. In 2009, when I was elected, we were going through some of the toughest times we had seen in this state," Christie said.

He said those tough times were a result of a poor economy, but also poor decisions.

There was a 322 percent increase in state spending from 1990 to 2010, Christie said. "That's the equivalent of spending 16 percent more a  year, every year," he said. "No family would do that, increasing their spending 16 percent ever year. No family can survive that."

Seniors, new families and businesses were fleeing New Jersey for places they can afford to live, Christie said. "It's not right," he said. "They don't have to leave a state they were born and raised in to be able to afford a house."

Compare that to June 2011. Christie said job growth has improved over the last few months."Instead of a downturn, we are on the upswing," he said. " We cannot change course now."

Supportive Audience

Strong applause followed most of the governor's comments and answers to audience questions. The crowd was diverse in the questions it brought, hoping the governor would address the Atlantic City tourism district, teacher performance, veterans services for South Jersey and the tax burden for individuals and businesses.

He was speaking to an audience of mostly middle-aged and older adults wearing  suits, tank tops, National Guard fatigues or veterans insignias. The governor was not faced with the opposition that turned out for earlier town halls. Protesters were absent outside the facility as doors opened at 2 p.m. through the end of the program, around 5 p.m.

One audience member brought hand-made signs supporting Christie, while others' intentions were known by the political bumper stickers of vehicles that packed the neighboring Winding River Ice Skating Rink.

The town hall, held at Toms River's armory, saw more than 250 attendees to the standing-room only event, listening politely and with supportive claps to standing ovations for tax reforms that Christie outlined before taking questions from the audience.

The agenda: cut spending, provide tax relief, provide stability for New Jersey's businesses and economy and reward excellent teachers and fire ineffective ones.

The governor called a 2 percent cap on increasing tax levies a success. The measure forced local government and school boards to present budgets increasing by 2 percent or less.

"We can say in towns across New Jersey taxes went up less than 2 percent," he said to strong applause.

Christie pointed to Democratic legislators and the state teachers' union as opponents to the reform agenda.

He said that recent New Jersey Education Association television ads have nothing to do with education and instead were a product of hate.

"They are hoping you'll hate me, and the discussion on education will just go away," he said.

Christie's continued battle with Democratic legislators was brought up early in his speech, as the governor referenced a Star-Ledger report that Democrats were beginning to consider raising taxes."I didn't fight for the  last 17 months to have lower taxes to give in now," he said.

'We Agree With Him'

In the audience: Toms River Township Councilman Gregory McGuckin, who is also running for state Assembly. Republican McGuckin said Christie came to an overwhelmingly supportive area.

"Christie won Toms River by 12,000 votes, he won Ocean County by 70,000 votes," McGuckin said. "The people in Ocean County, in Toms River, we agree with him."

McGuckin said he supported many of the governor's reforms. "He's proposing solutions. You don't hear too many people doing that."

However, in a news release distributed after the town hall, Bette Wary, 10th District Democratic candidate for state Assembly, said the governor shows "continuing inconsistency concerning public officials who take advantage of a pension loophole that permits elected officials to collect a pension while continuing to draw a paycheck from the same job."

She said she was disappointed Christie had yet to address local Republicans she said are taking advantage of the loophole, namely, Ocean County Freeholder Joseph Vicari and 10th District Republican Assemblyman James Holzapfel. Wary said the governor managed to scold Democratic Essex County  Executive Joe DiVincenzo and north Jersey Sen. Loretta Weinberg for collecting both a salary as well as a pension based on the same job.

“What we are seeing here is clear partisan politics,” said Wary. “The governor is attacking Democrats for using this loophole, but giving the Ocean County Republicans a pass for doing the same thing."

Former Toms River Mayor Paul Brush hoped the governor would address the creation of quasi-government authorities for such things as municipal utilities or parking authorities, who operate by appointments and govern their own budgets without much public input.

Brush, who is running as a Democrat for Toms River mayor this year, agreed the audience was a very friendly one to Christie.

"There was nobody really challenging him," Brush said.

Christie ended the town hall with an explanation of what he said was often a brash delivery of his opinions.

 "People say I'm angry, but it's not that. I feel I am the luckiest man alive, to be the governor of the state I grew up in," he said.

He told a story of how his ailing mother told him there was nothing left unsaid between them."That's made me who I am," he said.

Audience Reactions

As was the format for previous town halls, Christie left the back half of the event for audience questions. 

John Dorrity, director of Veteran Services in Ocean County, was there to fight for veterans’ rights.

 “The ‘Vet is a Vet is a Vet’ bill has been sitting untouched in the Legislature for almost 20 years,” Dorrity said.  “I am hoping that Governor Christie can finally push them to do something about it.” 

Dorrity was able to ask Christie to address his concerns during the question-and-answer portion of the meeting.  Christie responded that he will try but the Legislature is too divided and it would be difficult to pass, and Dorrity said he was not surprised.

 “I kind of expected the answer I got, but I’m still going to push the issue and hopefully we can get it passed,” he said after the meeting.

Some of the people at the Town Hall meeting had their own concerns about issues in the state.

“I support Governor Christie, but I am a little upset because he wants to get rid of NJN,” Brick resident Pat Dooley said. “Also, I am a former state worker, and I think putting a maximum cap – or removing altogether – payouts for unused sick days is a real solution the state needs to consider.”  Dooley suggested capping the payouts at $15,000 for state workers.

Still another attendee asked the Governor about an issue that hit very close to home for her – the Adoptee Birthright bill still sitting on Christie’s desk. Virginia Makitra, a Barnegat resident, asked Christie what his plans were regarding the bill, since he had until just June 23 to make a decision.

 He explained to her that he hadn’t yet decided what he would do, but he will definitely decide by the deadline.

“Releasing these records could be the difference between life and death for some people who have been adopted and cannot find their birth parents,” Makitra said, alluding to possible hereditary health problems for adoptees who do not know their family’s medical history.  “I have been waiting 31 years for something like this, so I really hope he passes it.”

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Mark June 8, 2011 at 11:52 am
Keep doing what your doing CC...we need more people in office like you
Jose Deer June 8, 2011 at 12:46 pm
sure it is ......LOL
Mark June 8, 2011 at 01:57 pm
Yes it is nice job...Gov CC
. June 8, 2011 at 02:30 pm
Oh yeah, great job!
Jerseyshoregirl2 June 8, 2011 at 05:11 pm
What a bombastic idiot!
Mark June 8, 2011 at 05:15 pm
thank you Gov CC for a wonderful job...keep it up.
Larry June 8, 2011 at 09:21 pm
Karen,, what are your solutions??? You are quick to pass comments about CC.... Here we have someone in office trying to control spending because the state is BROKE.....He is coming up with solutions that can save jobs and pensions... because at the rate things are going now there will be more jobs lost and there won't b enough funds to pay for pensions. He is trying to wake up the folks living in the entitlement mentality. People have the nerve to call him the bully, now that's a real joke......
lets go giants June 8, 2011 at 11:19 pm
How can he be controlling spending..WE lost 400 million in school aid under his watch
Mark June 9, 2011 at 02:23 pm
good job
Jerseyshoregirl2 June 9, 2011 at 04:46 pm
Sorry Larry..but he's a bully & a hypocrite. Oh BTW, I don't need to defend my comments to you. You have your opinion & I have mine.
Howell Taxpayer June 9, 2011 at 08:10 pm
Barbara Keshishian your next on the list for CC
Laura June 10, 2011 at 12:52 am
Well there you go: "dopey politicians". If you're living in most of Ocean or Monmouth County those "dopey politicians" are Republicans. Republicans don't seem to understand what a bully or a narcissist is, for that matter.
You seem to feel sorry for yourself. Demonizing teachers or public workers must make you feel much better about yourself. Cuomo in NY doesn't seem to feel the need to demonize. He just explains what needs to be done and tries to do it. BTW I'm not a public employee. I believe there need to be reforms. I don't think you have to attack people to do that. A straight forward - This is what needs to get done and then do it. No wonder we have such a problem with bullying in this country. Conservatives don't know what it is.
Laura June 10, 2011 at 02:01 am
Actually the Democrats are all telling him to resign but you wouldn't know that if you watch Fox.
Why would the "liberal media" cover his actions in a negative light? He is doing what needs to be done. He just isn't a bully. Being a bully works if you are an Attorney but not as Governor. Look how fast that Republican District in NY went Democratic when the conservatives found out the Republicans were going after medicare. The Republicans are fine as long as you don't touch their entitlements. Weiner is a pervert so what? He needs to resign. How about David Vitter or Ensign? No Republican insisted Vitter resign. His wife said before his little Kerfuffle that she would be more like Bobbit and not Hilary Clinton. She had to eat her words didn't she? Cut the crap both sides are disingenuous.
Tired of the BS June 10, 2011 at 02:56 am
Laura, on Fox 5 News this morning they did report that the Democrats are asking for his resignation. So there, you bully. Defending your party of choice does not excuse the ridiculous behavior on display in our state & individual municipalities. There is only one goal to be focused on...previous politicians (democrats & republicans) have overspent & took entitlements to the point of no return, someone has to fix it. If you think you can do better, then you should run for a position. Brick just raised our taxes 24%, did you get a 24% raise this year?? Where's the respect for those whom are trying to get spending under control.
Spooner June 10, 2011 at 04:07 am
Tired & Helen;
...last year Laura ran as an Independent for Mayor. . .she did same thing that phony Tea Party guy up in New York did. . .then she redrew her name when a former turn coat Republican Mayor changed his party and ran as a Democrat . . .
Stacy Q June 10, 2011 at 11:56 am
I am one of the casualties of the governor's budget cuts to schools. I have been unemployed since last year and still cannot find a job. I think the governor is harsh and brash, however, I think he's doing what needs to be done. I don't agree with all of his policies, but I do agree that changes need to be made to the pensions system of the state. I personally have no problem with the firefighters or police officers getting their benefits paid for, but the teachers' union and state workers need to contribute a lot more than the 1.5% they are being asked to contribute. The NJEA always complains that budget cuts are hurting the students, but in reality, they are just worried that the teachers will have to work a little harder. Trust me, as a teacher, I've seen this first hand. There are many good, dedicated teachers, but on the flip side there are many lazy teachers who are afraid of tenure reform and go running to the union over every little thing. In my opinion, unions are no longer necessary in 2011. When they were created, unions helped workers a great deal. Now, they protect the mediocre. A good HR department is all that is needed. I think what people object to about the governor is his no nonsense approach. He's ripping the band aid off in one shot rather than gently easing it off. That can be offensive to some people - he's definitely not for everyone, but he's trying.
Tired of the BS June 10, 2011 at 01:32 pm
Mercedes I feel your unemployment hardship. Under Corzine's reign & Obama's healthcare reform threats I was laid off of my position in the medical field. It took me two years to regain employment. I am still in the medical industry, however, my employer does not offer medical insurance benefits due to the cost for the business & employees. We also save lives & not are afforded the same benefits as police, firemen, teachers, or any other government/public worker are entitled to. It is not wrong for all of us legal tax paying citizens to ask for some relief. Most of us working poor are really struggling to support our families. And it really does comfort me to know that a dedicated teacher feels the same. Thank you & best of luck in employment search.
Laura June 10, 2011 at 02:02 pm
Helen,
I don't watch MSNBC. Obviously I couldn't SILENCE the right even if I wanted to.
Dan June 11, 2011 at 01:38 am
six figure salary BK.... nice air conditioned office..... what about "THE CHILDREN"
Bill Cox June 11, 2011 at 10:43 am
Laura,
You seem to defend the policies of Cuomo in NY over Christie in NJ. It should be noted that there will be more teachers laid off in NYC under Cuomo's budget cuts than there was in all of NJ under Christie's. Bloomberg stated it would result in massive cuts and layoffs. Cuomo cut 1.6 billion or 7.3% in education aid in NY Christie cut 800 million or 5%. Christie gets SLAMMED by the NJEA yet NY teachers union do a commercial bashing Fat Cats as their rebuttal and NEVER mentioned Cuomo once. Hmmmm one union dreams of Christie dying and the other will never bash their beloved liberal Cuomo. Dare we say "bullying" Laura?
Frank June 11, 2011 at 11:16 am
Home Run Bill Cox.
And for all you Libs out there the fact is that Corzine eliminated the millionaires tax NOT Christie. He just refusing to reinstitute what Corzine eliminated. Where were alll you anti-fatcat millionaires when Corzine eliminated it?? YOU are the hypocrites.
Laura June 11, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Bill Cox,
It's not the policies. Republicans are amazing with your lack of reading comprehension. If it needs to be done, do it. Christie doesn't need to vilify teachers or police or anyone else, just DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. Well maybe vilify double and triple dippers.
Bill Cox June 12, 2011 at 01:26 am
Oh Laura , your mistaken, John Conyers is a Democrat who admitted to not reading bills before he voted on them. Give him credit, at least he admitted it. I would ask that you google "Christie blasts teachers" or any thing even close to it. I am sorry Laura but in every article I have READ , yes us Conservative minded do read, I have yet to find this demeaning tone you speak of. He states that the NJEA takes in 130 million dollars a year in dues yet doesn't pay a penny toward their members benefits. He states the NJEA has a virtual palace in Trenton from which they do some of their best lobbying. He states that reform is needed and he would hope the teachers union would do what they say and "put the children first". I didn't hear him call for anyone's death, I didn't hear him bully anyone. He merely said what he believes in, that reform is needed, the system is broken and we are BROKE. If I am wrong please, I beg of you, cite the Christie quotation against teachers that you find so offensive. Have to go now and catch up on my reading.
Spooner June 12, 2011 at 03:02 am
Bill, not that I'm defending Laura!!!. . .but Christie has had a caustic relationship with the NJEA, and their website is reporting a $1.4 B cut last year:
http://www.njea.org/news/2010-08-04/governor-s-toolkit-targets-schools-communities ...also a Bergen County union official in an email that was leaked... wanted or hoped Christie would drop dead , and vice versa: http://www.northjersey.com/news/education/040910_Teachers_union_issues_public_apology_to_Governor_Christie.html The NJEA and the Governor definitely have issues. . . As for Cuomo. . .having followed his family's politics for a number of decades going back to his father's career(NYS Governor). . .Christie is an amateur compared to Cuomos'. . .but you have to understand with the fathers long time influence and experience along with his son. . .embedded in the New York political culture,and unlike Christie who was a new comer to the scene, Cuomo can work behind closed doors, away from media scrutiny. . .Christie doesn't have that luxury. . .he has to be "right out front". . .Whatever works!
Frank June 12, 2011 at 03:29 am
Christie's beef is with NJEA NOT teachers. He does expect results from teachers but that's not villifying them.
Spooner June 12, 2011 at 03:39 pm
But the NJEA is made up of teachers. . .are you parsing words here?
So maybe they sure separate themselves from their union. . .you know . . .become independent! Christie would just love that. . .
Dan June 13, 2011 at 01:07 am
Anyone catch the front page article in APP about Toms River school district??? When Ritacco was in charge..... hundreds of thousands of dollars were overpaid .....all taxpayer money being spent without any checks and balances......nothing questioned by the board of ed. for many many years. HMMMMMM... how many other school districts in this state has the same corruption scheme going on....really disgusting how taxpayer money is so freely handed out while families are struggling to pay their own bills. wake up people...... start questioning your school boards and pay attention to what is going on. we have very few who question the lacey school board...... those who do i give alot of credit to.
Eric Thomas June 25, 2011 at 12:01 pm
State on the upswing?
Please get me a bottle of whatever it is that our governor drinks. I want to see pink elephants, too. Obama by another name.
BN June 25, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Must be the same stuff Obama, Biden, Reid, Pelosi, and Geithner are drinking.
Eric Thomas June 25, 2011 at 12:52 pm
BN, how right you are.
It seems to be the beverage of choice in the whorehouse of politics.
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