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Controversial Geese Program Halted

USDA informs Ocean County that population has been sufficiently controlled and further killings of geese are not needed

No more Canada geese will be killed in Ocean County. For 2012, at least.

Ocean County Freeholder John Bartlett announced on Tuesday that the US Department of Agriculture has informed the county that the population of resident Canada geese has been controlled enough that "there is no necessity of any further geese roundup this spring. It is over."

Bartlett said that 10 geese were killed this spring, but the bigger impact of the program with the USDA has been the egg addling.

"I asked the parks department to put together records and over the last 11 years, 1,309 eggs have been addled, preventing them from hatching," Bartlett said.

For the fourth straight meeting, members of the several animal rights groups were on hand to protest the goose roundups. This time, however, David Sauder, president of the Animal Rights Activists of New Jersey, thanked the freeholders for sitting down with him and representatives of several organizations, including Geese Peace and the Humane Society of the United States, to hear their suggestions for nonlethal means of controlling and discouraging the resident geese from settling at the county's parks.

Sauder also urged the board once more to suspend the contract with the USDA, to which Bartlett responded with the announcement of the USDA's report.

Bartlett said the freeholders would continue to look at nonlethal methods for discouraging geese from settling in certain areas, including flashing lights at night that are supposed to disturb the animals. But he also said the county would not rule out using the USDA again should other methods fail to keep the goose population in check.

Bartlett did agree, however, that the particular method the USDA uses -- herding the geese into cages and then gassing them with carbon dioxide -- presented images that evoked powerful reactions.

"I think we have an obligation to look into other methods," Bartlett said, adding that he felt the USDA also should consider other methods, or at least be able to show the gassing is not inhumane, as they are the ones taking the responsibility for the resident goose population. It was the USDA years ago who bred geese in captivity to help support the dwindling migratory Canada goose population, Bartlett said, but the program had an unexpected consequence because the new geese never migrated.

"Our first obligation is to have clean parks," Bartlett said.

Dick Chin R Ree July 04, 2012 at 02:56 AM
Send the geese back to Canada and the illegals back to where ever they came from. Soon we are going to have to secure our borders at the county line. Does either sheriff candidate know where the county line is? The chice is between over the hill and soon to be over the hill. Reminds me of the gang that couldn't shoot straight.
Onyx Embridge July 04, 2012 at 03:28 AM
Wow the USDA is right on its game. No more killing is needed and in the last 11 years 1,309 eggs have been addled!! Impressive...or maybe not. In the Okanagan Valley of BC, Canada, 1308 eggs were addled in 2011 alone! Had they seriously been addling eggs for 11 years they should easily have been able to addle about 15,000 eggs IF they had this serious goose overpopulation problem. They shouldn't have needed round ups and gassing. It’s all in the spin and the USDA are expert at it. NEWS RELEASE: EGG ADDLING CONTROLS POPULATION OF CANADA GEESE “Last year, field crews located and addled 1308 eggs from 274 nests between Vernon and Osoyoos,” http://www.okanagangooseplan.com/?p=195
JOHNNY Done it July 04, 2012 at 03:31 AM
Agreed Support Sheriff Joe from Arizona
Onyx Embridge July 04, 2012 at 03:35 AM
“It was the USDA years ago who bred geese in captivity to help support the dwindling migratory Canada goose population, Bartlett said, but the program had an unexpected consequence because the new geese never migrated.” Can you read....these resident geese have never been to Canada. The same despicable agency making millions rounding up and gassing resident geese is the same despicable agency that created the resident goose problems in the USA from coast to coast. Somewhere along the line humans have to show they have some humanity and manage the problems - they created for these INNOCENT birds - HUMANELY. However - unless the USDA is bullied and threatened with legal action - that is waaay too much to expect from them.
Onyx Embridge July 04, 2012 at 03:47 AM
"Our first obligation is to have clean parks," Bartlett said. Yeah, well......there is a difference between being as antiseptic as a hospital laboratory and 'clean'. There is absolutely nothing dirty about Canada geese and the parks here in Vancouver, BC have dozens of geese. Saranac, NY bought a Naturesweep to scoop the poop and makes compost out of it. There is no excuse to whine about goose poop. http://adirondackdailyenterprise.com/page/content.detail/id/527020/Goose-poop-scooper-gets-trial-run.html?nav=5008 Had Ocean County seriously been addling eggs for years, which could have prevented about 13,000 ‘new recruits’ to the resident Canada goose population, AND been using a Naturesweep - there would not have been any EXCUSE to round up and gas hundreds or thousands of innocent geese and their babies.
Onyx Embridge July 04, 2012 at 03:48 AM
"Our first obligation is to have clean parks," Bartlett said. Do you allow dogs in your parks? Heres's the scoop on dog poop: "It has been estimated that a single gram of dog waste can contain 23 million fecal coliform bacteria, which are known to cause cramps, diarrhea, intestinal illness, and serious kidney disorders in humans. EPA even estimates that two or three days’ worth of droppings from a population of about 100 dogs would contribute enough bacteria to temporarily close a bay, and all watershed areas within 20 miles of it, to swimming and shell fishing!!!. Dog feces are one of the most common carriers of the following diseases: Heartworms, whipworms, hookworms, roundworms, tapeworms, Parvo, Corona, Giardiasis, Salmonellosis, Cryptosporidiosis, Campylobacteriosis. For example, in the Four Mile Run watershed in Northern Virginia, a dog population of 11,400 is estimated to contribute about 5,000 pounds of solid waste every day and has been identified as a major contributor of bacteria to the stream. Nearly 500 fecal coliform samples have been taken from Four Mile Run and its tributaries since 1990, and about 50 percent of these samples have exceeded the Virginia State water quality standard for fecal coliform bacteria, according to EPA." http://www.doodycalls.com/resources_toxic_dog_waste.asp
RDinLacey July 04, 2012 at 03:49 AM
They need to get the geese out of here...if they can do it humanely, great, if not, so be it.
Berkeley Lifer July 04, 2012 at 03:58 AM
OMG here come the Geese police,Mark Wendell where are you bro lol....
Just Saying July 04, 2012 at 04:03 AM
Kill the geese and give the bums in Lakewood's tent city, goose dinners and goose down comforters and pillows for Christma, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa and Navidad
Ken July 04, 2012 at 05:20 AM
If we have it under control I would hate to see if we did not have the population under control. Definitely need to do more.
bobby s July 04, 2012 at 11:21 AM
come to my house--then tell me its under control let me know where the geese peasers live and I will be happy to bring over the cute 15 baby geese that just hatched
Martin July 04, 2012 at 02:36 PM
Neighbors should scold dog-walkers who don't scoop the poop after their pets pollute our environment. If they persist, take phone-photos so the offenders can be fined ($$$) by the town. I pay taxes for parks and street rights-of-way, and inconsiderate dog-walkers make them hazardous to my health as well as the health of Barnegat Bay: "...a single gram of dog waste can contain 23 million fecal coliform bacteria, which... cause cramps, diarrhea, intestinal illness, and serious kidney disorders in humans. ...two or three days’ worth of droppings from... 100 dogs would contribute enough bacteria to temporarily close a bay, and all watershed areas within 20 miles of it, to swimming and shell fishing"
David Bolignesi July 04, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Disgusting. This signifies so very much of what is wrong and damaging about humanity. Exterminating living beings because they are "inconvenient" to us. What's next? Our dogs, pets, other people, the planet itself? Oh, that's right... These beings are already exterminated on a consistent basis. This is the epitome of "slippery slope". Enjoy it while it lasts. We only damage ourselves by damaging our surroundings. "When the last tree is cut, when the last river has been poisoned, when the last fish has been caught, then we will find out that we can't eat money." ~Cree Indian proverb
Opinionated July 04, 2012 at 04:27 PM
I'm a little surprised that no one here has wondered why ANYONE is taking the word of the USDA when they are the ones who created the problem in the first place. To David, do you have a problem with spraying for mosquitoes too? How about pesticides for crops? According to you that would also be the epitome of the "slippery slope". I still like the idea of "harvesting" the geese. The food banks could really use the meat. To just saying: why wait for the holidays? Feed them now.
Onyx Embridge July 04, 2012 at 05:50 PM
Opinionated, That's a pathetic comment from someone who lives in a country that THROWS OUT half the food it produces every year. Maybe if there wasn't so much greed there wouldn't be so many in need AND there would be more land for wildlife. "The average American throws away 33 pounds of food each month"....but hey kill the urban wildlife for the starving poor. Disgusting. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46743203/ns/world_news-world_environment/t/experts-percent-worlds-food-thrown-away/#.T_SBF5FFmNc BTW...New Jersey has to be one of the most polluted areas in North America and Canada geese are sponges for environmental toxins. “Wild Waterfowl - Mergansers are the most heavily contaminated waterfowl species and should not be eaten. EAT NO MORE THAN TWO MEALS PER MONTH of other wild waterfowl; you should SKIN them and REMOVE ALL FAT before cooking, and DISCARD STUFFING after cooking. Wood ducks and Canada geese are less contaminated than other wild waterfowl species and diving ducks are more contaminated than dabbler ducks. (Contaminants - PCBs, mirex, chlordane, DDT). http://www.health.ny.gov/environmental/outdoors/fish/health_advisories/advice_on_eating_game.htm
Poindexter McSmash July 04, 2012 at 11:53 PM
There are billions of geese! You have to watch your step when you go to any park, because they are still landing and not paying attention the the posted signs. But seriously, they bring disease in their droppings. What is more important, your children or the overly populated geese?
Opinionated July 05, 2012 at 02:39 AM
Onyx, the most pathetic is one who has no argument and resorts to name calling and deflecting the original argument as to where the USDA has the "expertise" to solve a problem that they created. Using MSNBC as a reference for anything really is the truly a sign of limited ability. Perhaps something is running up your leg. Perhaps you should be called Ex-Lax.
So Much to Say July 05, 2012 at 03:44 AM
When I go to any park, it's not dog crap I have to watch for it's geese crap. Maybe we should scoop up all the geese crap we find and drop it on the steps of the EPA building.
Onyx Embridge July 05, 2012 at 03:54 PM
Opinionated - no argument? You said the geese should be fed to the hungry. I pointed out the USA throws away half the food it produces every year...I also pointed out wild geese are not the healthiest food to feed the needy as government health advisories show. As for the USDA being 'experts'.......they are experts at little to nothing except brutality and killing. http://www.sacbee.com/2012/06/25/4586503/investigation-into-wildlife-services.html Guess what...you can humanely manage Canada goose populations and the government should simply have mandated egg addling throughout the state years ago...and saved taxpayers thousands but then they wouldn't have got paid to round up and gas geese! NEWS RELEASE: EGG ADDLING CONTROLS POPULATION OF CANADA GEESE “Last year, field crews located and addled 1308 eggs from 274 nests between Vernon and Osoyoos,” http://www.okanagangooseplan.com/?p=195
ASteinberg July 05, 2012 at 04:48 PM
Sorry, but it's the 7 billion people on this planet causing the REAL mess and reuining the environment. There has never been a single documented case of anyone ever catching anything from a goose, but plenty of human-transmitted dieseases. People (hint: YOU) should do their research before opening their mouths and revealing how ignorant they are.
ASteinberg July 05, 2012 at 04:53 PM
Since the USDA's Wildlife Services killing division is currently under a growing call for a Congressional investigation for their wide-spread animal abuse and misuse of taxpayer funding, I hardly would call them experts at anything except unnecessary slaughter and rampant fraudulent spending. I believe the REAL reason the USDA called off this kill is because of the tremedous response against the killing and the fact that they are now desperately trying to make themselves look good. As if.
Opinionated July 05, 2012 at 06:41 PM
Onyx, the crux of my argument is that the USDA is too incompetent to give ANY advise in this or anything else. They should be ignored and someone more knowlegeable should be consulted. That may not be possible with the feds. As for the food wasted in this country, got no ideas but it definitely sounds like a noble cause. Enjoyed your sacbee link though. Makes me wonder why ANYBODY would want Obama back. As for the healthiness of eating these geese, it seems you are taking the advice from the same people who caused the problem. Again, do they know what they are talking about? Hmmm.
Onyx Embridge July 05, 2012 at 07:03 PM
Well we agree on the incompetence of the USDA. You could take it a bit farther then and stand up for these victiminized beautiful birds because other communities have proven you can coexist with them using non lethal methods. There are hunting seasons and millions of geese are shot and injured every year. There is no excuse for these callous roundups and gassings of urban wildlife. It has just been a cash cow for the USDA and they hate to let it go. Aside from that...if you don't believe the government health warnings about eating wild waterfowl use you common sense. They wouldn't issue any warnings if they didn't have to because they get so much income selling hunting licenses. I don't think the entrenched mindset of the USDA has much to do with Obama...they have been doing all this since long before Obama was elected.
Onyx Embridge July 05, 2012 at 07:18 PM
BTW opinionated.....goslings don't have any meat on them and molting geese were never eaten by the aboriginal people because they are essentially sick geese and also don't have much meat on them at that time. They used the same 'feed the poor' excuse last year in NYC to help make their goose killings more palatable to the public...they killed 575 geese but only got 425 lbs of meat - so that is less than one chicken's breast per bird on average. It's cheaper to buy chicken in a store.
Kathleen Cook July 07, 2012 at 09:13 PM
Canada geese don't come from Canada. I believe that the species was named by a man named Canada. They do reside in Canada, though. But then they're all over the place.
Kathleen Cook July 07, 2012 at 09:20 PM
I don't know where you live, but I live in Sussex County NJ . We have a lot of parks & I haven't seen any problems in them. The problems arise when people keep feeding them.
Ed Taylor July 12, 2012 at 10:55 PM
Correct about the Canadian Geese. We have them here in northern CA as well.
Willy Nilly July 12, 2012 at 11:11 PM
GOOD! Finally this merciless slaughter by arrogant people is finally over! I hope nothing like this ever takes place again.
ASteinberg July 12, 2012 at 11:42 PM
Gerald - you can never rest on hope, because anytime an agency like the USDA can make money they will, and township leaders have short memories. They just killed 750 geese in a wildlife refuge in NY and also killed in Virginia. There are rotten selfish people everywhere. What is needed is people to form an intelligent group and demand transparency and responsiblity from the leadership and be a part of the information and solution. Trust me, you can never rest.

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