Toms River planners have approved a plan to subdivide a Hooper Avenue retail space, provided the applicant construct no more than three units in the building.
The plan by applicant Toms River Equities for a use variance to divide the former home of Coconuts Music and Movies at 1258 Hooper Ave. first came before the township's Planning Board in early December. At the time, board members expressed concern that the single space across from the Ocean County Mall could become a strip mall.
"I just don't see this building working divided into two or three units, or five units," board Chairman Bill Suchodolski said at the time.
The applicant returned in mid-December and proposed that no more than four tenants will occupy the space. A counter proposal of three units was made by the board and accepted by board members, according to the resolution outlining the approval passed by the board on Jan. 16.
A Jersey Mike's Subs and a Chipotle Mexican Grill are planned for two of the spaces; it remains unclear what will occupy the third or when construction will begin to retrofit the building.
Under the three-unit plan for the 14,568 square foot building, one space will be 3,648 square feet and the remaining two must comply with the 5,000 square foot minimum space requirement set by ordinance, according to the resolution.
During his first appearance before the board in December, applicant planner Brett Skapinetz contended that the space has adequate parking and would not resemble a strip mall. Further, finding one retailer to occupy the one space, which has been vacant for about two years, would be more difficult than attracting several smaller businesses, he said.
"There are fewer tenants than there used to be in that mid-size range," Skapinetz said at the time. "If it's multi-tenant, it doesn't become a strip center. It's the same building that's already there. All of the characteristics of the neighborhood stay the same."
Yea I would rather see a rateable be turned away so Property taxes can continue to rise. Without businesses in your community property taxes will increase dramatically. Support and welcome any business that wants to come to TR. @ Once Loved NJ....I understand what you are saying but Chains are the only food business that can afford the insanely high prices liquor licenses in Toms River. I am just glad its not going to sit vacant, we have enough of those vacancies all over this town.
TR gets property taxes from the owner of the building whether it is occupied or not!!! Doubtful there was any change in taxes TR collected whether empty, 1 tenant or 3 tenants. It would have to go through reassessment.
Obviously letsgetreal doesn't understand property taxes. She's hoping one of these lowwww pay job are in the bag for her. Not worth dinging my car to patronize either of these businesses. There is very little parking there.
I was hoping for the Trader Joe's in the old Foodtown on Fischer. I can't stand Shop Rite.
Apparently you do not know the difference...there is a different tax on Commercial than there is on Residential.... @ I have spoken.. Apparently since you Drive a FERRARI! i can understand why you would not want to get your car door dinged in such a small parking lot. I mean the mayhem that is going to be in the parking lot is going to be treacherous with the mad rush to get to Chiptole, my lord the HORROR of it all.....LOL
Residential and Commercial have the same "tax rate". Total taxes paid equals assessment x tax rate. TR could careless whether occupied or empty as they collect the same amount of property taxes.
Now he makes the point i am trying to make to JD everyone pays taxes based on land...YES but your house and my house have different taxes all together due to value of Structure included...hence...a vacant building does not bring taxes to the town, county and state as if it were occupied...come on JD stop looking for reasons to push away another business unless you think vacant buildings are a plus around here...hmmmm JD could you possibly have some self serving interest in a business that does not want competition?. TR needs to take a page from Brick when it comes to business development. Anyone who is sitting at home now worrying about there not being enough parking for cars in a lot that will not have any effect on their personal lives is insane. And if its so important to you (which I pray its not) then attend a Township meeting and voice your concern, but remember offer a solution not just a bitch.
Now here is a guy who gets what I am trying to say...Nice post Mr. ? JD seems to think businesses in TR don't provide tax revenues...only property tax...seems like he is the one that does not understand how taxes work. Businesses generate tax revenues way beyond the typical homeowner. Oh and they also produce jobs for people. Man people are never happy. And Mr. ? I agree Trader Joe's would be great but you know that someone on the PATCH, you know who they are. And they would complain! complain! complain! no doubt about something regarding Trader Joe's. LOL
You are clueless. Tax revenue goes to the state. Nothing to Toms River. Sales Tax goes to the state. Tax on profit of the business goes to the state and fed. Taxes from employment go to state and fed. TR only gets property taxes from commercial buildings. Duh!
You are clueless. I don't have a problem with subdividing to 3 units. I'm just responding to your comments on how you don't know what you are talking about regarding taxes.
Geesh!
Try to follow this common logic. We know the PROPERTY brings in taxes. We are trying to say that the business brings in additional revenues by way of Sales TAX and other revenues to the local, county, state, and fed Gov as well as JOBS. HELLO....
Go read what you initially wrote. Apparantly you are starting to get it but not quite there yet. All that you have described goes to state and fed. Nothing to local or county. Minimum wage part-time jobs part-time produce very little if any state of fed taxes. The amount of cash in tips never hitting the books... not to mention revenue not hitting the books for restaurants, etc... and none of it goes to TR or county.
Your mental block of not understanding what I am saying has worn me out...I give up you figure it out....apparently you did not pay attention in school very well. Also any job in this town at this point or this state is GOOD how ignorant and selfish can you be. I got news for you TR is not getting any Small Cap business nor any BIG industry anytime soon so take what you get. Besides that fact that I am arguing with what appears to be an IDIOT is really my downfall at this point. I say that with the utmost respect! Yeaaa