Teacher, Administrator Evaluation Models Up for Approval at Tuesday School Board Meeting

State requires new evaluation models be in place for the 2013-14 school year

Education administrators in Toms River are expected to approve new evaluation models for teachers and administrators during their regular meeting Tuesday night. 

As part of a state Department of Education requirement, Board of Education members will vote on the Charlotte Danielson Teacher Evaluation Instrument and the Kim Marshall Administrator Evaluation Model when they gather for the 7:30 p.m. public portion of their meeting at High School North. 

The DOE wants school districts to adopt new evaluation models for the 2013-14 school year; the Danielson and Kim Marshall models are both approved by the state. 

"In order to improve student performance, we must recruit the best and brightest to the profession, prepare and reward outstanding educators, support them in honing their practice, and give them incentives to teach in schools with struggling populations," reads a DOE statement describing why the new evaluation models are being adopted. "By implementing rigorous, transparent, and trustworthy evaluations, we aim to improve educator effectiveness and thus student outcomes."

Also on the agenda for the meeting, which begins at 6:15 p.m. with an executive session, are presentations of student awards, approval of an a shared services agreement with the Seaside Park Board of Education, and approval of the district's Harassment, Intimidation and Bullying report. 

notasellout February 19, 2013 at 10:32 AM
Does anyone, anywhere, actually think for one minute that the adoption of an "evaluation" system by the Toms River BOE will result in the hiring/retention of quality administrators or teachers? Or does everyone think that the "good ole boy" way of hiring friends and family will continue and that education in this town will always take a back seat to money?
VoiceofReason February 19, 2013 at 12:25 PM
This is BS - this will change NOTHING. TR district has some of the dumbest, laziest most AWFUL teachers of any district around. It's pathetic and disgusting. Get rid of the washed up old geezers whos 'teaching methods' are older than they are. Don't hire someone you know, hire someone who is qualified to do the job.
suz February 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM
Same ole BS again and again...Oh, but don't forget, its all for the children. Stop the madness!!
Ken G February 19, 2013 at 12:39 PM
I'm going to guess you've gone to every single school in the district, have had every single teacher, and graduated last year? No? Then how do you know your statements are true?
VoiceofReason February 19, 2013 at 01:05 PM
Ken G - Don't worry about how I know my statements are true. I'm much MUCH more wise than you my friend. Don't defend something you don't know.
JD February 19, 2013 at 01:52 PM
IF they are not going to fire any teachers and administrators... so what... waste of time... At least 200 teachers/administrators need to be purged from TRRS.
grace February 19, 2013 at 03:19 PM
hate to be mean but as long as the old friends and partners of ritacco are still there and in charge..which they are..nothing will change..toms river is so sad mr roselli should be the first to go..he a nice guy but knew all about the schemes of his boss
Nicholas February 19, 2013 at 03:36 PM
There are some good teachers, and many who are not so wonderful. They should retain what methods of teaching have been proven to WORK, instead of continually trying to implement new technological advances to keep up with the trends. Good teachers need to be recruited from other parts of the state, where the criteria for graduating from high school is higher and where potential teachers go to better universities to get their degrees.
Captain Jack February 19, 2013 at 03:56 PM
VoiceofReason - There are good teachers and bad teachers. However, it's like that in any job where there are good lawyers and bad lawyers, good accountants and bad accountants, etc. This is why the new observation program is in place so that under performing teachers can be held responsible for not doing their job personally I think you're an idiot.
Scott February 19, 2013 at 04:08 PM
How do you plan to improve a teacher with tenure? It's basically impossible. The NJEA doesn't want to hear their plans after a poor evaluation. They'll just re-assign them to another school. Also, if they are planning an evaluation, it should be an unannounced visit to the classroom, so that the teacher doesn't prepare for their academy-award performance.
chtulu2000 February 19, 2013 at 05:10 PM
John...according to the meeting my wife went to, Danielson observations are unannounced. Tenured teachers get something like 5, while non-tenured get 7 or 8. Not sure exactly of the number. It is a start.
chtulu2000 February 19, 2013 at 05:14 PM
How do you get that number JD, ro is it something you just made up? Honestly, not trying to be a jerk...I agree with much of what you say about the hiring practices in TR, but to just give out a random number of fires without any proof to support that number does not help your point.
Chief Wahoo February 19, 2013 at 05:19 PM
those who can't.............Teach Just nowadays, they are way over compensated
VoiceofReason February 19, 2013 at 05:52 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah First of all: You actually think that this "new program" is going to be implemented????? Your seriously out of your mind if you think administrators are actually going to take the time to do this. Trust me. I know. And I personally think you're an idiot as well. Thanks JackOff
VoiceofReason February 19, 2013 at 05:54 PM
Tenure needs to go too. Too many old teachers are leaning on that as their safety net and not giving a darn about actually teaching kids. They do the bare minimum because they can get away with it. In TR schools if you make a mistake, or do something in a particular school which in any other workplace would be grounds for being fired, they simply move you to another school within the district. Problem diverted to others, NOT solved.
Hardieharr February 19, 2013 at 06:17 PM
What makes you wise? Because the education system failed you and you think younger teachers are better at reaching the state goals. Younger teachers lack the ability to control your degenerate children because you cannot control them yourself, so blame the teacher. VoiceofReason is not wise, because a wise man says the least. The statement you are looking for is "wiser than you," not "much much more," it is poor grammar.
JD February 19, 2013 at 07:06 PM
Thats about 20%... and that's based upon my personal experience within the district... and typically there is an 80/20 rule... and it actually fits in this case also. Whenever a teacher (teaching in another district) has to demand their child be transferred to another classroom because the teacher is terrible... tells me alot.
JD February 19, 2013 at 07:10 PM
We've had good experience with "older" teachers... I don't think it is an "age" thing!! But it is a tenure thing... Some of the worst teachers have 5-10 years experience and you can't touch them because of tenure. They simply move you to another school.
letsgetreal February 19, 2013 at 10:56 PM
All I see is the usual 3 complainers on this post, JD, Chief Wahoo and Voice of Reason....do any of you have any positive solutions or advise rather than the negative crap you throw on here? I mean do any of you REALLY believe all the Crap you say or even live by any of it? I along with my friends actually find you entertaining and I guess you would be considered like the Court Jesters of the TR Patch.... Definition: a clown or buffoon who is employed by a noble or royal for entertainment; also called a fool Example: The court jester typically wears a three-pointed hat with jingle bells attached. LOL thanks for the laughs I guess ..........
Hardieharr February 19, 2013 at 11:36 PM
I wish many of you would go into a classroom and try and teach. It's not easy and overpaid as some say here have never taught. Your children are what has made teaching difficult because parents do not support teachers because they cannot control their kids. People blame teachers for the way kids are disrespectful and lazy, but its the parents fault and its never their child. If a student says a teacher hit them and is not true, the teacher still ends up gone if they don't have tenure. 60% of no tenured teachers quit before tenure and there is a high number who still quit before eight years. That is a high turnover rate for a group with required degrees.
letsgetreal February 19, 2013 at 11:47 PM
Hardieharr... .you have to just look at the complainers as Court Jesters Like I said and not take them serious....I find it almost impossible that someone could be so negative and miserable that all they do is spew negative stuff on here so take it for what it is...they are only here to entertain...and create controversy to keep these threads going....Trust me they don't mean half of what they say....go look they are on all the threads......its cray. LOL its all good....
Ken February 20, 2013 at 12:07 AM
One of the few professions where it is almost impossible to lose your job. Something needs to be done about that and to stop the nepotism already. More qualified people can not get jobs because they do not have the right connections or relatives in the Toms River School district.
letsgetreal February 20, 2013 at 12:19 AM
Ken, You make a few honest points, but unfortunately the reality in this world is that in any sector private or Public....its always who you know. Rarely does the most qualified person get the job, the promotion or the bonus. The job market is full of politics no matter what district, what company. This will never change unfortunately,
Stephanie Sevastakis February 20, 2013 at 02:34 AM
I would take some of those "old geezers" any day of the week over many of these younger teachers who sit in class and text and seem more concerned about socializing with other teachers in the hallway then being in the class teaching. This is what I hear from my son and I'm sure his school can't be the only one.
VoiceofReason February 20, 2013 at 01:21 PM
First of all - mind your own business. I wasn't trying to impress with grammar, but rather make a point. Nice name though, "Hardieharr" You must be a joke. You make me sick.
VoiceofReason February 20, 2013 at 01:24 PM
So you and your friends sit around reading the TR Patch for entertainment? And pass judgement on people you don't know based on what they comment on news articles? Really? And you have the nerve to question our reasoning and words that we write as an OPINION? Newsflash moron, people are entitled to their opinion. Get a job Loser.
VoiceofReason February 20, 2013 at 01:28 PM
Yeah, it's "CRAY" you must be a result of this wonderful school district. Seriously, get off the thread. No one cares what you have to say idiot. Shockingly, I agree with Hardieharr on this. Parents are to blame for behavioral issues and disrespect. It's sad now-a-days
Nick February 20, 2013 at 06:31 PM
In my experience with children in the TR schools it is the new teachers -- the "newbies" who are the least qualified to teach our youngsters. They are under the assumption that they have to incorporate all of the latest crap that they learn in college into their lessons, and are misguided in thinking that they can change the world. They are the last to show up to work, and the first to leave. They are guaranteed employment by dropping names of people they know in the district, or are family members of those with influence. Its terrible, and it has to stop!


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